Seascout-Net Mail Archive for February of 1999: RE: A Youth voice on the 13 yr old debate
RE: A Youth voice on the 13 yr old debate
Wed, 24 Feb 1999 22:02:00 -0500
I did not mean to imply that all 13 year olds immature, but I think it helps
for them to be a bit older. I think Sea Scouts is great because it gives the
older scout something to do, aside from the younger scouts. And yes, I do
see many immature 14 year olds, I see many immature 21 year olds. I really
think that Sea Scouts is a High School thing. My issue is it would seem kind
of odd that there would be seventh graders in the ship, which is possible
when you let people in who just have turned 13.
Overall, what I think the rule should be is 13.5 years. Besides, that seems
like a good midpoint. At that point, you can recruit 8th graders half way
through the year.
Just my opinion, I could be wrong.
SSS 361 Columbia Ranger
[mailto:email@example.com] On Behalf Of Jennifer
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 1999 8:37 PM
Subject: A Youth voice on the 13 yr old debate
My email is directed to all but most importantly is in response to
Alphonse and Skipper John's last email. I did comment very early on to
this discussion of whether 13 yr olds should be accepted. I have read
all the emails since and have decieded to comment again. I still
support the lowering of the age. In fact I recommend it highly. I have
to say that this argument is starting to frustrate me. I think that
most of the responses are from skippers and that does not make them less
valid but youth are the ones that are in the ships.
One of the major arguments against lowering the age is maturity. I
disagree with the ones who say that there is a big difference between 13
and 14 yr olds at least with the majority. Yes there are the occasional
immature 13 year olds but let's be honest alot of the 14 yr olds are
too. I think especially with youth now that there is not a major
difference. Youth are alot more mature than they used to be. I
understand also that there is a difference in 13 yr olds and 18 yr olds
but I don't see that as a problem either.
I welcome 13 yr olds into my ship especially because I was there
once and I know now how important scouts are to someone's life and I
think that at this is the best time to get them. I am now going to make
some arguments that to some may seem sexist but PLEASE do not take them
this way I only make them because I have only experienced it with
girls. I was one of the first to join as a 13 yr old in my ship (as far
as I know) and then as I got older we let other 13 yr old girls in. No
boys wanted to and in my experience at least with girls they were more
mature than alot of the older members of our ship. They were also more
enthusiastic and eager to advance and learn all they could.
My own experience is the longer in scouts the better. I mean I had 5
years in it before college and I do not feel that it was enough. I miss
it terribly. Another good reason to start before high school is to grab
them early. Many made the argument of extracurriculars and sports and
that is the best argument yet. My sister joined in time to understand
how important scouts was and she has on many occasions skipped sports
practice or mtgs at school to go to a scouting event. If she had not
had that foundation than I am not sure that she would have made the same
I do not know if I am making sense but I am trying to make everyone
understand how much of a difference I think joining at 13 is than 14. I
do not think it should be any younger than that but 13 is a perfect age
to be a scout. If anyone has any questions or concerns still I am
always around to answer or help out. I have the background for this
argument/debate and I am glad to help.
NE Regional Boatswain
PS John and Alphonse I hope you two especially enjoyed this and can now
be put to rest since a regional boatswain has responded.
To leave Seascout-Net, send the following message to
To leave Seascout-Net, send the following message to <firstname.lastname@example.org>: