Seascout-Net Mail Archive for October of 1998: Re: Uniforms
Fri Oct 23 11:52:30 1998
I'm the Skipper of Sea Scout/Explorer/Venturer/Pirates of the Carribean Ship
654 (It all gets kinda confusing!).
As many know, we are a dual-chartered ship, with the Naval Sea Cadet Corps
as our primary persona. We wear the uniform of the United States Navy,
appropriately modified as required by SECNAV with USNSCC insignia. This
works quite well, for us. Additionally, we've just adopted what I call our
"Yacht Club" rig of the Navy polo shirt and khaki slacks for less military
endeavors. Uniformity is a big part of our program.
Being a "hard corps Navy type" (I'm a former Public Affairs weenie...so how
"hard corps" does it really get?), I have a problem with NSCC and Sea Scout
programs who wear the USN uniform, but not to USN standards. I have no
problem with the various other "uniforms" described on SEASCOUT-NET (black
pants/white shirt, polo shirt/dockers, etc.). When I see the Navy uniform
worn in a fashion contrary to USN standards, I get my canvass in a wad.
Seeing females wearing the "dixie cup," young men with pony tails, blue
jumpers with *white* (!!!) pants, etc. To me, that's going too far. IMHO,
Sea Scouting should create a set of standardized "uniforms" to suit each
flavor of scouting (red, white and blue). Those that are "traditional," and
wear the USN uniform according to USN standards, are great - be it NSCC or
SS - so long as it is worn by a set of standards. But, I get this strange
churning in my gut when I see white neckerchiefs and other strange
accessories on the Navy's uniform.
Back to the survey...for those who want to sterotype my NSCC program as
"they just march a lot," let me set the record straight:
** Ship number/location SSS 654, Cedar Key, Florida
North Florida Council
** Formal Uniform type (USN, USCG, white shirt/blue pants, blue polo/kakhi
Dress Blues / Whites
"Yacht Club" Khakis
** program strength (Do you think your program is active/inactive,
strengthening/weakening: remember, honesty counts here :))
We have 22 Cadets and a wardroom of seven officers / instructors. We
have NSCC activities virtually every weekend, with our primary drills being
the second and fourth Saturday. Most of the crew reports aboard on Friday
evening. As of about two months ago, we've had use of a 1000 square foot
very old wooden building, which has been dubbed the "boat house." This site
will be used for safe boating courses and other community oriented events in
Our primary training platforms have been:
YP-660, an 80' wooden Yard Patrol Boat from the U.S.
Naval Academy. This craft is being moved out due to some structural damage,
with another larger vessel being added within the next year. We have not
found a craft yet, but are hard at work on it...
28' pontoon boat. Brought it up from Marathon,
Florida to Cedar Key. Lots of sea stories. Replacing deck and repairing
some fiberglass. Will probably be sold.
33' cabin cruiser. This is being negotiated.
41' Coast Guard craft, while performing on-the-job
training at USCG Search and Rescue Station Yankeetown, Florida.
We had eight Cadets go to NSCC "Boot Camp" for two weeks; one is in the Army
Reserve as a Medic; five others completed advanced training on the YP from
one to four weeks last summer. Two have done OJT with an Explosive Ordnance
Disposal Unit in Panama City, two others have been involved with "Helo OPS"
with the CG station. In about five hours, we'll be travelling up to the
ex-USS Yorktown in Charleston, SC to meet up with Sea Cadets (and another
dual-chartered unit) from Charleston, Norfolk and Charlotte, NC. Last week,
we hosted the "Haunted Boat House," raising about $800, and doing it again
next weekend...so, yes, I'd say we're pretty active.
**ship type (Do you consider your ship White, Blue, or Red?)
We must be a "DARK NAVY BLUE" ship by the above standards. While I
sincerely don't care if my kids...ooops, young adults...join the service, we
are very much patterned after the Navy and Coast Guard. Again, this works
for us...but, it probably wouldn't for many others. Our core values are
PRIDE, SERVICE and PATRIOTISM, which says it all.
"A ship in a harbor is safe, but that's not what they're made for..."
Joseph M. Land, Sr., LCDR, NSCC
Skipper, SSS 654
Cedar Key, Florida