OUR VISION: WHAT IT WILL BE IN THE FUTURE
Skipper L Vulcan (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Tue Mar 10 23:40:43 1998
To all the skipper, mates and Scouts.
WE ARE THE SEA SCOUTS.
and thank you Bill Krueskamp for the words "with the vision of expanding
the Sea Scout
program not to be what it was but what it will be in the future. "
I will repeat it a little differently,
" OUR VISION FOR THE SEA SCOUT PROGRAM IS NOT FOR WHAT IT WAS, BUT WHAT
IT WILL BE IN THE FUTURE"
Skipper Lee, Honolulu.
When in charge lead, when not, get out of way.
On Tue, 3 Mar 98 23:32:07 CST6CDT Bill and Terry Krueskamp
>Just stop already.
>I would like to invite everyone to visit the following address and
>read the contents for a short history lesson.
>General history at: http://www.sea.scouter.com/about/history.html
>"Excerpts from the first printed publication about "Sea Scouting" by
>Sir Robert Baden-Powell, K.C.B. "Sea Scouting for Boys" published in
>Glasgow, Scotland in 1911":
>"The following consists of the front-matter and Chapter 2 of Sea
>Scouting and Seamanship for Boys by W. Baden-Powell, K.G., revised by
>Sir Robert Baden-Powell, Bart., reprinted 1939. Most of the
>publication is a seamanship manual. Only these sections deal with the
>nature and history of Sea Scouting":
>"New Branch of Boy Scouts of America started with the aid of the
>Secretary of the Navy". An article / press release dated 4/15/13:
>Now I could quote several relevant phrases to support my point but I
>will refrain in the interest of keeping this short. I hope that all
>of you read the above pages again and draw your own conclusions, after
>all, it is interesting reading. I do however have to quote the
>In May 1949, the National Executive Board made sweeping changes in the
>older-boy program, as a result of a study made by the Research Service
>of the Boy Scouts of America. This revision of Senior Scouting
>recognized as Explorers all young men who were 14 years of age or
>older and registered with the Boy Scouts of America.
>So, on September 1, 1949, the Sea Scouts officially became Sea
>Explorers. This was primarily a change in terminology since the old
>Sea Scout program continued much the same is it had in the past.
>In 1954, the National Executive Board of the Boy Scouts of America
>authorized the Research Institute for Social Service of the University
>of Michigan to make a national study of adolescent boys. This survey
>revealed the needs, desires, and concerns of 14- to 16- year old boys
>across the nation. As a result, a completely new Explorer program was
>developed and put into effect on January 1, 1959. However, this did
>not bring about a change in Sea Exploring. It was decided that changes
>should be postponed until there had been sufficient time to observe
>Sea Exploring in operation alongside the new Explorer program. After 5
>years, in which there was ample time to make such observations, the
>decision was made to revise the program.
>The national committee on Exploring worked closely with the Exploring
>Division in making recommendations for this revision. Groups of
>experienced volunteers also assisted- especially in the revision of
>advancement requirements. The object was to make available to Sea
>Exploring some of the elements of the new Explorer program that had
>been found effective, while preserving the integrity of Sea Exploring
>with its traditions. <end quote>
>Apparently the Exploring program turned out not to be so effective
>My point is this:
>Sea Scouts was originally a division of the BSA, then this
>"Exploring" program was invented and Sea Scouts now became a division
>of a division of the BSA. Now that we've lost the affiliation with
>the debunked "Explorer" division. They want to place the "still
>successful" (for the most part) Sea Scout division under this new
>Venture division. So, we will be a division of a division of the BSA
>again. At this point we don't know how successful Venturing or
>Learning for Life is going to be, and based on the last exercise, for
>how long. What new program division will they place us under if and
>when Venturing fails?
>Why can't we become a single tiered division again?
>Why continue to muddle with a successful program?
>Who thinks the new local and national representatives of the Venturing
>program are going to spend any more time working to expand Sea Scouts
>proper then the Exploring representatives did? Do I see any hands?
>I don't know about your local council but when it comes to Sea Scouts,
>ours is weak... (Sorry if that offends anyone)
>We have several inactive "Should be Explorer posts" in our council. It
>seems every post that wanted to specialize in any sort of aquatics was
>signed up under Sea Exploring. We have a scuba post, water ski posts,
>and sailing posts. There not Sea Scouts. They're Explorer posts.
>Someone should sort them out and put them under Venturing. Or at least
>let them choose for themselves.
>Lastly, someone mentioned that all Explorer Posts that specialize in
>"career development" will be placed under Learning for Life and all
>others will be placed under Venturing... And now Sea Scouts will be
>placed under Venturing. Correct me if I'm wrong but, based on the Sea
>Scout history page and the emphasis of the Sea Scout program I was
>part of as a youth, Sea Scouts was originally organized to groom youth
>into Sea/Marine based careers. Thus giving them the background they
>need, (that they cant get any where else) if they chose to take that
>When did we become "just fun"?
>When did we lose sight of the responsibility to groom youth for marine
>based career choices?
>Am I missing something?
>My vote is a new Sea Scout division of the BSA, with its own local and
>council representation, with the vision of expanding the Sea Scout
>program not to be what it was but what it will be in the future.
>Sea Scout Ship 500
><The in the beginning quote> "New Branch of Boy Scouts of America
>started with the aid of the Secretary of the Navy"
><The in its "heyday" quote>. "With a membership of more than 27,000,
>Sea Scouting served its country well in World War II".
>Engine Room Chief
>SSS 228, Sea Dart II
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