Kit N. Caboodle (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Mon Mar 02 16:31:03 1998
> With all this debate,(Expl. Vent. or Scout), who makes the final
> decision and when? Seems like this change was made without a whole
> lot of forethought.
> Dave Minasian
> SES 104
Actually, there are two different changes going on. BSA has already
made their decision to divide the groups currently known as Explorers
into two groups: "senior scouting" types soon to be the Venture program
and "career awareness" types soon to be part of the Learning For Life
program. That recatagorizing will take effect on August 1st 1998, and
is not open for discussion.
What is now known as Sea Explorers WILL be part of the BSA Venture
division, but our program will have to find a new name- keeping the name
Explorers is NOT an option (that would defeat the whole point of BSA's
As I understand it, nothing about us is changing but the name. BSA is
not trying to restructure our program, or distance themselves from us
(if anyone should be worried being affected, it's the career programs..)
This is, however, an opportunity for us. While BSA is busy making their
changes, we (people for now still known as Sea Explorers) have a golden
chance to come up with some of our own ideas. If we WANT to restructure
ourselves (ex: go back to the red, white, & blue designations for the
various types of Sea ****** units), this would be a good time to do it.
If we only want to replace the word Explorer, and leave everything else
the same, we could do that too. We can discuss and debate and hopefully
come to a majority choice and then (the National Sea ***** Committee, I
think) can go to BSA and let them know what we want to be called after
August 1st (Sea Scouts, Sea Venturers, Venture Sea Scouts, etc).
Personally, I don't think is such a bad thing coming. We are diverse
enough WITHIN the Sea program to confuse a wondering soul. To be lumped
under the term Exploring along with high adventure and rescue units (and
air units when there were some) wasn't so bad- we kinda covered land,
water, and air just like the military branches. But we were also lumped
in with law groups, computer groups, and business groups, and I couldn't
even keep track of who else- so no wonder people had trouble imagining
what, exactly, an "Explorer" was. Also must have been a logistical
nightmare for the councils to have such a vast variety of groups under
one generic heading.
I could see this realignment improving our relationships with regular
scouting, and I can hear the gears warming up **creak** as skippers and
commodores are busy thinking up all the ways turn this opportunity for
the benefit of our program while the window for change is still open.
You just don't get many chances like this when you're part of such a
huge, established organization. Now's the time to air our ideas, if we
have any, and that's what all the discussion here is really about (or
maybe should be).
Unless you were questioning the BSA decision that set all this in
motion. That would be a whole different conversation which might clear
up confusion but isn't about options.
Katie Sanders, Program Mate
Ship 361- Columbia Ranger