Re: Sea Exploring in 'Scouting'
Wed Dec 31 18:03:07 1997
I am very interested in the correspondence following your first message on
this subject. In 1908 Ireland was still part of the United Kingdom and
Scouting started here at the same time as in Britain itself. Records of
those early days are very sketchy as the Scout Association did not yet
exist. Many patrols started spontaneously when boys read Baden-Powell's
"Scouting for Boys", published in 6 fortnightly parts in January to March
1908. The first four boy scouts were enrolled in Dublin on 15 February 1908
as the Wolf Patrol of the 1st Dublin Troop. The Scoutmaster,
Mr.R.P.Fortune, had been at sea in square-riggers for some years and he
included boating activities as part of the programme.
The idea of a specific Sea Scout identity and programme was considered by
B-P during 1910. He apparently consulted widely on this and some Sea Scout
Troops were formed in England in 1911. B-P's brother Warrington wrote "Sea
Scouting and Seamanship for Boys", published in 1912. With the publication
of this book the Scout Association formally recognised and registered Sea
Scout Groups. Also published in 1912 or 1913 was "Seamanship for Scouts" by
Lt.Cdr H.W Stuart-Garnett.
In September 1912 Mr Fortune formed a Sea Scout Troop in Dublin, changing
the 1st Dublin Troop into Sea Scouts. This Troop, later renamed 1st Port of
Dublin, has been continually active since then. So they have a double claim
to fame - continuous existence as a Scout unit for 90 years in February
1998 and as a Sea Scout unit for 85 years in September 1997. They claim to
be the oldest Sea Scout unit in the world - are there any other claimants?
I have heard of a Group in Australia, in the State of Victoria, called 1st
Ivanhoe. I believe that this troop was formed in 1908 and became Sea scouts
in 1915. I understand that they do their boating on the Yarra River and in
Port Phillip Bay. Could any of our Aussie members confirm this?
With best wishes for a Happy and Prosperous New Year to everybody
8th Port of Dublin Sea Scouts