Re: Regional Sea Exploring Meeting, October 1997
settummanque, or blackeagle (blkeagle@Dynasty.Net)
Fri, 19 Sep 1997 15:47:45 -0500
Since you've posted this on the list, my response is directed to you as well
as the rest of the list:
You wrote to Bruce in response to an invite to attend the Regional Sea
Exploring Committee meeting:
>I received your invitation to the regional meeting. My question is "why"?
I would assume only that Bruce, like all Regional Exploring leaders, are
looking for Exploring leaders from all over his Region and not just limiting
this to "his good friends" nor "those that have done something with him before".
I would take this as a very good thing indeed.
>Since I was not only turned down for a staff position on Seabadge >NE-VIII
but also on Seabadge NE-IX (in my own town, five minutes from >my house, in
the facility that I broke my ass on to make it as good as >possible -- and
good enough that it is being used for SB-IX), it seems >obvious that my
"services are no longer required".
No so. I've been turned down for various Sea Badge AND Boy Scout Wood Badge
courses, and it's for a variety of reasons; none of which convinced me "that
my services are no longer required" because nobody has come right out and
told me that in my face or sent me letter letting me know that.
I continue to advice, work with and encourage Sea Scouters and other
Exploring (and Scouting) leaders even though I may not be registered
anyplace presently. That's *my choice* and while it is my choice, it also
limits me as to what stuff I can do in a "trainer mode" and what I can do in
a "coaching or support role".
With regard to Sea Badge, I was invited to serve as a member of the Sea
Badge course staff for NE-VIII; after talking with the Course Skipper and
with my Council Scout Executive, I informed him that I would not be able to
participate since I am not currently a registered Scouter (and this is
despite my Council Scout Exec's impassioned invite to pay the money and go
and be a part of the course). I did ask (and was provided and continue to
be provided) with copies of the course syallabus and other handouts which
was provided to other staff members and, in essence, *was a staff member*
without being there physically. This I owe to the Course Skipper and to
Bruce for "recommending me", someone that he only knew as a
"longtime Sea Exploring and Exploring leader as well as a good Scouter".
There's a lot of reasons why the courses are selective about the people
participating.....the biggest reason is kinda simple: NOT EVERYONE CAN
SERVE ON A STAFF. There's only *so many* positions that can be allocated
and there's only *so many tasks* which can be justified by the placement of
"one more person" no matter what the background, repuation, or desire of the
course director is.
I've also been turned down for Wood Badge Course staff, even though I've
been able to previously serve on three in two separate Regions in my past.
There's again that factor that there's only so many people that a course can
handle as far as training is concerned, and for every additional staff
member, you have to come up with something concrete that the person can do
to "justify their attendance".
I don't take either as a "slap in the face", even when I've been turned down
for staff positions in my own Region or Area. I take it as an opportunity
to do *other things* and to allow others -- like you -- to take those
"slots" and to continue to be of service to others. I can always do "my
part" by encouraging those eligible to attend Sea Badge or Wood Badge or any
other training courses; I can always find myself serving on a training team
or coaching new Advisors or Skippers or their Committeemembers or youth
members; and of course you'd better believe that I would be continuing to
activily support the program through anything else that a Council or my
Region asks me to do.
Believe me, S.D., people do remember you and will call you up or write you
and ask for your help or for your service. You don't have to "beat your
chest" to be recognized and to be asked..... I've never had to do that, and
I get invites to stuff I clearly can't attend only because of the distance
>The only thing I want is to teach adults the courses listed under
That's fine. Attending a Regional Exploring or Sea Exploring Committee
meeting isn't going to "force you" to do anything you don't want to do.
The meetings are called so that Exploring leaders at the Council/Area level
can meet, exchange information, and fomulate plans for the continuance of
the Exploring or Sea Exploring program for the next year or so. Bruce, as
the Regional Commodore, can't just do all of the stuff that he needs to do
in a vaccum; he needs the widest amount of background and input from the
largest number of Exploring leaders in the Northeast that he can get!
>I have had nothing to do since Seabadge NE-VII.
I don't know where you live, S.D. or what Council you're a part of, but just
because you weren't "picked up" for a Sea Badge course, doesn't mean that
there's "nothing for you to do" in support of Sea Exploring. As a member of
the Northeast Regional Exploring Committee, you *could have* attended
Council Exploring Committee meetings and encourage the organization and
extension of Sea Exploring units; you could assist local Councils with the
implementation and training in those courses you've outlined that you want
to work with; you could also have attended Council Commissioner workshops
and conferences and told "the Exploring" and in specific, the Sea Exploring
story to those Commissioners and to answer their questions (and they have a
LOT of them!) about uniforming, programming and how to "support Exploring
and Sea Exploring units", since many Councils don't have "Exploring Service
Teams" let alone an "Exploring Commissioner" in anything but in paper form.
Those are things that *I do*, S.D., with full awareness from my SE and from
those other Councils that I work with. I do this in concert with other
Scouters and Exploring leaders, giving them my knowledge, experience and
enthusiam. While I tell them and anyone else that ask that my busy and
haphazard schedule does NOT allow me to do anything but random speaking
engagements and training courses in the midst of Army training and my *work
for pay*, I am and will always be a strong supporter of Scouting and
Exploring, even though I'm unwilling to commit myself by being a "registered
I also, finally, S.D., serve as a reminder to those parents that "you don't
have to be registered and fully immersed to be of service to the program".
You just have to care.
Bruce cares, or else he wouldn't asked his Course director to spend the time
and invite me to serve on staff. He wouldn't asked you, if he didn't feel
that you are valued and your input is needed as others are to the overall
successfullness of his Regional Sea Exploring efforts.
No "BSA politics", S.D......just a concern for inclusion.
You get to decide to what degree of that inclusion you wish to be a part of.
(c) 1997 Mike Walton ("no such thing as strong coffee,...") (502) 827-9201
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