Re: SEASCOUT-NET digest 200 -Reply
Bruce C Johnson (email@example.com)
Wed, 13 Aug 1997 07:05:01 -0400
As I recall, the "get hurt" comment came from Marc Scimonelli, whom I
know pretty well. I read Marc's comment as meaning that, unless you join
Sea Scouts, some members of the Ship would come over and hurt the reluctant
person ... and I know that that was Marc's sense of humor. (While he's a
very emotional guy ... he'd be quick to point up his Italian heritage ...
he's also a very non-violent guy.) I guess Marc should have included a
smiley face. :)
Skipper, S.E.S. Columbia Ranger
Columbia, Maryland USA
PS: Your point about due attention to safety is a good one.
>>> Mark Ritter <firstname.lastname@example.org> 13 August 1997 7:00 am >>>
>"join sea scouts, get hurt"
>(yes, that is one of our mottos)
I HOPE you are jesting. But just in case ...
I'm sorry to hear that.
I've been involved with Scouts for 37 years: cub scout, boy scout, ASM,
SM, troop committee member, district and council training team, round-table
commissioner, camp staff, skipper, and Ship 90 Committee member. I can
still count the number of people in my units who have needed medical
attention beyond simple first aid with my shoes on - and without using my
thumbs. (The most serious, most hilarious, and saddest were all a single
incident. On our annual father/son campout, our SPL was instructing the
newest scouts the BSA approved method for splitting firewood. SPL's father
interrupted with a "better way". SPL explained that wasn't safe. SPL's
father insisted on giving a demonstration. SPL's father sliced his own leg
open from mid-shin to ankle. An excellent, if unintentional, demonstration
of WHY we do it the safe way.)
I've been a Ship 90 committee member for 14 years now, and offhand I don't
recall a single person needing medical attention beyond first aid as the
result of an accident. Eight members of Ship 90 spent 3 weeks in July
as crew aboard the 198' square-rigged U.S. Brig Niagara. The captain and
professional crew were
VERY serious about safety. With 40-50 people on site daily plus hundreds
of guests on tour, and approximately 40-50 crew plus 35-60 guests aboard
while under sail, the only incident that I'm aware of needing medical
attention beyond first aid was one case of dehydration/heat exhaustion.
And a working square-rigger isn't exactly your family living room for
I do know of scout troops with less satisfactory safety records. One sad
case had 7 scouts taken way from a weekend campout by ambulance in one day
as the result of 7 separate "accidents". (A severe cut and 3 broken bones
in the AM, another broken bone, another cut, and a burn in the PM.)
The attitude of the adult in charge - NOT the Scoutmaster - was one of
acceptance: "boys will be boys" and "Scouting activities are inherently
Most "accidents" have causes, causes that COULD have been prevented. (1)
Don't accept them as inevitable. (2) For each one that occurs, FIND the
cause. (3) For each cause, find at least one and preferably more ways it
COULD have been prevented. (4) Do better the next time. (5) Change that
motto to - Join Sea Explorers, learn how to have FUN the SAFE way!
Mark Ritter - Committee Member
Ship 90 - The SES North Star - New Milford PA