Re: uniform acquisition
settummanque, or blackeagle (blkeagle@Dynasty.Net)
Thu, 19 Jun 1997 16:29:54 -0500
Hi Sara!! I don't have spel check, so you'll have to bear with me hier!
This is in followup to your great information post; allow me please to
"piggyback" onto your comments with some perspective from the military
(although NOT Navy) point-of-view and some explainations on why you'll
being asked to provide that information AGAIN.
>Spoke with procurement clerk Fritzi Mickiewicz at Uniform Support >Center,
Chesapeake-Virginia. Was given the following >information....someone (unknown)
the "unknown" is the Defense Department, and in particular, the Defense
Supply Center in Philadephia, PA. They have overall guidance and authority
for the usage, procurement and utilization of Department of Defense items
>has ruled that BSA, Sea Cadets and all >other youth organizations using
>navy uniforms will from this day forward have to send
>a (totally new) letter on the ship's letter head stating the leaders
>(skippers) position, name, name of organization, (as in Boy Scouts of
>America, Sea Explorer Ship 000 etc.) social security number of the
>skipper ... and including the names and social security numbers of all
>members who are authorized for uniform purchase.
This is to verify and track those "authorized purchasers" so that we don't
end up with uniforms and accessories in the hands of "psudoyouth" groups or
organizations that are bent on the overthrow of the federal and/or state
governments. It's no different than what military people have to do to
obtain uniform items....and it's a good move to discourage those
that want to "get those uniforms" for less-than-good reasons to move on
somewhere and either make their own or do without.
> The letter should
>specifically say that "the following
>(......) are authorized to purchase (blah, blah, blah.) The group leader
>will also be required to send with the letter a copy of the charter of
>the organization. These will be sent to Fritzi (see above) at FAX #
That's so they can verify and if neccessary, provide that information to the
BSA or other organizations seeking verification of how the uniforms were
purchased, who purchased them, and for what reason.
More importantly, it serves as a "general record" of which organizations and
groups are purchasing/wearing uniforms and accessories.
> She had no idea what the "UNIT NUMBER" requirement was all
>about but she did say that orders and directions from management were
>changing week to week and that all she knew was that they were >updating
their files and it did not matter that we sent them all of the >above just a
few weeks ago.
Nope. Sure doesn't, Sara....the policy applies not only to Boy and Girl
Scouting organizations, but also to Navy or Marine Corps (or any service)
Junior ROTC, military schools, military "veterans organizations", and the
like....anyone using current official military equipment or uniforms.
>I dug up this information specifically for our ship but I think (at least
>on the East Coast) that everyone can use it. I have tried with no success
>to get us on some sort of "need to know" list so that we could keep up
>with these (apparently random, whimsical and spurious) changes and
>executive decisions but my pleas have fallen on deaf ears.
The changes came at a time of military reorganization and confusion over
which organizations would be "exempt" from the reporting and requesting
procedure. The DPSC (Defense Procurement and Supply Center) finally
provided the appropriate guidance to everyone down the rungs and now we're
seeing some *final policy* put into place. I don't blame you for wanting to
know "what's next", but as you have found out, even they don't know what
exactly is going to "come next". The best thing you can do is to contact
them on a monthly basis and just ask.
At one time, the DPSC was going to be moved, and then it wasn't and on and
on...so, there wasn't a big need to do this "verification request" now.
But, with the increase of groups that have been getting military uniforms
and insignia "as if they were official groups", the Defense Department
finally had to do something. Personally, if your Ship's on the "up and
up", this is no different than doing a request through the BSA's Supply
Division (except for the charter copy requirement; and of course, the Center
cannot always call up National Registration Service every time a request
Hope that helps your Ship and others out....spelling errors are my fault;
I'm using the shareware Eudora and t don't support spelchekin. Or the
grammerchekin! *broud smile*
(c) 1997 Mike Walton ("no such thing as strong coffee,...") (502) 827-9201
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