Censorship is alive and well on seascout-net
Wed, 7 May 1997 22:17:22 -0400 (EDT)
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Date: Wed, 07 May 1997 16:20:20 -0400
From: Bruce C Johnson <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Subject: Access to Seascout-Net
In the rush to deal with the work I get paid for along with my very
large Sea Exploring workload, I apologize that we haven't taken the time to
explain a couple of actions we've taken viz your access to Seascout-Net.
As we are certain you know, we have had a number of previous communications
about the tenor of some of your messages on the list and, in most cases
your messages have moderated for a time.
Recently (within the last month) each of you sent messages to
Seascout-Net that fell well outside the bounds of what most people would
consider "civil discourse." These messages had followed repeated warnings
from me, including one that we would characterize as a "final" warning.
Unfortunately, these messages have caused considerable discord and
consternation over the list, and we can site almost 40 subscribers to the
list who have resigned immediately after messages from one or the other of
you. We hasten to say that it was not because they _disagreed_ with you
(though that certainly was sometimes the case), but rather the manner in
which you presented your arguments (often involving personal attacks on
We can not tolerate this if we hope to move Sea Scouting ahead. We
will say for the record that we agree with most of what both of you have to
say. On the other hand, we am very aware of the dozens of young adults on
the list who should not be exposed to such public abuse.
As a consequence of the repeated nature of this problem and subsequent
to several warnings, we have posted your email addresses to the server such
that the server will ignore any messages from you. We are working with our
list provider, scouter.com, to give us the ability to moderate your posts
and pass them through if they appear to be consistent with "A Scout is
Courteous." We regret that the move to a newer, faster server has put the
technical staff considerably further behind on this project than they, you,
or we would like. Their latest guess is that it will be another 3-4 weeks
before this feature will be available.
Your subscriptions to the list continue to be valid, and we have no
doubt that you will continue to express yourselves via your rival list. We
ask, however, that you respect Seascout-Net's subscribers' interest in
conducting scout-like discussion by not attempting any additional actions
to publicly criticize list members or providers for their well-intentioned
actions on everyone's behalf.
We are truly sorry that we can not provide you a forum for the
expression of your views at this time, but given the large number of fellow
Sea Scouters who have been deprived of their right to participate in this
discussion through your actions, we felt that there were no alternatives.
We will let you know when the selective moderation feature is in place
and that you will once again be able to post your views on the list. Until
then, wishing you continued success in your Sea Scouting efforts,