Re: Warington Baden-Powell
Don Goff, Ph.D. (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Mon, 31 Mar 1997 07:18:44 -0800
Bruce Chr. Johnson wrote:
> Skipper Hassan:
> My apologies for not posting this earlier. I did a search of the
> Library of Congress's holdings and the only publication by Warington B-P
> was a book about canoeing published in 1903. I was a little surprised
> about this since LC's Scouting collection is quite good. Then again,
> since it's collection is pretty comprehensive for US-imprints (within
> the areas it collects) but not nearly to comprehensive otherwise, I
> guess I shouldn't be so surprised.
> The other firm piece of information comes from a monograph titled "Sea
> Scouting for Boys" by Sir Robert Baden-Powell, K.C.B., 1911. At the end
> of the 16 page pamphlet, he wrote:
> "A detailed book of instruction on the subject is being brought out by
> my brother, Warington Baden-Powell, K.C., late Royal Naval Reserve."
> I've also just completed a complete search of all editions of the "Sea
> Scout Manual," "Sea Exploring Manual," "Handbook for Skippers," as well
> as all references to Sea Scouting in "Scouting" magazine (just the
> pre-1940 issues). Warington B-P isn't mentioned in any of these
> publications until the 1964 edition of the "Sea Exploring Manual," where
> he is referred to as Robert B-P's older brother and the founder of Sea
> Scouting. Any earlier references were to Robert B-P coming up with the
> idea. I can't say with absolute certainty who actually started Sea
> Scouting. I would think that our British colleagues would be in the
> best position to look at the original documents. Anyone game to look?
> The Baden-Powell House in London might have what we're looking for.
> Bruce Chr. Johnson
> Skipper, S.E.S. Columbia Ranger
> Columbia, Maryland USA
> Hi..i still finding more info about Warington BP like his DOB,his
> hobbies,when he died and so and so...anything about him and a pic of
> and also ...more info about seascouting.
> Ayub Hassan,
> Skipper ,
> Second Johor Bahru,
> Sea Scouts Group.
Skippers and Scouts:
I apologize in advance for not confirming the details; we just moved and
my books are still in boxes, so this is coming from memory.
Warrington Baden-Powell was world famous a decade before his younger
brother Robert because of his canoe, "Rob Roy." In, I think 1887 0r 1888
he made an epic, multiple thousand mile voayage in her. Rob Roy was a
decked caonoe, less than sixteen feet in length, with a lapstrake hull
and propelled by a double ended paddle, quite similar to a modern sea
kayak. Presumably the book Bruce found in the Library of Congress is
the account of this voyage.
WArington B-P's story is told in Atwood Manley's book Rushton, His Life
and Times, an account of the builder of those canoes. An on-line source
might be the Woodenboat forum, which has a great deal of info about
wooden boats and the people who build and use them. Its URL is
www.woodenboat.com and has links to many maritime history sources.
Woodenboat, incidentally, is a U.S. magazine dedicated to those craft
which has been published since the mid-1970's and is always a great