scouts-l Mail Archive for August of 2000: Re: When is an Eagle rank official?
Robert Haar (rhaar@HOME.COM
Wed Aug 23 2000 - 16:12:40 CDT
> From: Scouts-L Youth Group List [mailto:Scouts-L@LISTSERV.TCU.EDU]On
> Behalf Of Jason Cruse
> Now, here are where problems occur:
In my experience, the biggest source of problems is when scouts have
transferred between different troops/councils and doesn't have proper
paperwork to back up advancement history.
I was talking with a SM two days ago who has a scout coming up for his
Eagle BOR. The scouts had been with three troops is three different
states and no one got any transfer paperwork along the way. He is trying
to re-construct some merit badge records with no paperwork at all. The
scout cannot remember who was the counselor for a couple of them that
date back over five years.
His current SM is on a detective mission, but I am afraid that this
doesn't stand much chance of success.
> These are the biggest things that slow up an Eagle application. Our troop
> has had personal experience with the latter, when our office misplaced a
> full year of advancement reports and we had to regenerate them. I don't
> know how common that is.
Are you sure it is the "office"? I heard from one troop that a year of
their advancement records was missing from council's records, but since
it was just one troop, included several reports, and coincided with the
tenure of a specific advancement chair at the troop, I can draw a different
Don't be too quick to point fingers. Check the records early on before the
Eagle candidate has the paperwork all done and you have enough time to fix
> Now, understand that BSA, in general, appears to be slow in adopting
> technology that is available.
This seems to be true, but the biggest source of problems are
still the humans in the loop.
ASM, BSA T188, Rochester Hills, MI
District Advancement Committee, Ojibwa District, Clinton Valley Council