scouts-l Mail Archive for August of 2000: Re: Unitarian / Liberal Scouting Listserv
Mon Aug 21 2000 - 12:24:09 CDT
Okay folks, I took a little time out before composing this reply and I'm
choosing my words carefully. I can answer an emphatic yes to at least one
of the questions posed, however, I found that post to be one of the most
offensive mean-spirited posts I've ever read on this list! I believe the
exclusionary spirit of that invitation to join a "liberal" list is anathema
to what we do here, and in all of Scouting. I want no part of any Scouting
list devoted to a single point of view and certainly want nothing to do with
any group that so myopically views people as being automatically "pompous"
based on what they perceive are their "conservative views". I'm one
liberal not afraid to admit that I can be just as pompous about my views as
anyone else, I expect others to excuse me just as I try my best to excuse
them (do unto others......) Furthermore, anyone who takes a lack of e-mail
from the list as a cue to "secretly makes a mental review" of their last few
postings wondering if something they wrote was "somehow taken the wrong way
by someone living in Texas?" needs to consider whether paranoia is not
really the issue at hand. Let me state for the record that this Scouts-L
free-thinker with a big mouth has never (NEVER!) felt any pressure from
Texas, or any other state, Country, Territory, Principality or Duchy
regarding my very active participation on Scouts-L .
Yes, there are values in the Scouting program that many in this country for
purely political purposes, wish associated with one political point of view,
but, I'm sorry my friend but Scouting values belong to no one. Just as open
minds obviously don't automatically go with liberalism, traditional values
don't automatically belong to conservatism.
Finally, just what good will a chorus of voices that agree do for Scouting?
Why don't you stay here with me and let your views be known? Is your mind
so closed to what others have to say, that the possibility that people can
and do hear what you are saying does not occur to you? How will Scouting
ever make the changes you deem necessary if you separate yourself and nobody
hears your voice? I've said it before and I will say it again, it is rare
issues discussed on Scouts-L do not at least make me re-think my own views,
and whether or not anyone in Texas or anyplace else is doing the same, I
don't care, I at least know that my words are there is they want to listen.
Being pompous is by definition a viewpoint "characterized by excessive
self-esteem," well my friends, that invitation to a "liberal" Scouts list
is about as pompous as one can get in my book.
The world is neither black nor white, but, infinite shades of gray.
YiS (all of it)
Bob Lazell, SM
Valley Cottage, NY