scouts-l Mail Archive for August of 2000: Texas?
Janyce Wright (justjanw@HOTMAIL.COM
Mon Aug 21 2000 - 11:41:55 CDT
Sounds like you're up to 'here.'
Personally, my spiritual and religious preferences are closely and dearly
held. And, only personally and privately discussed. They are not up for
debate. My own life has me convinced.
I was disappointed and sad to read about the difficulty with religious
awards. I truly believe that Scouting should either drop the whole program
or go with something universal, like Dr. Mike proposed - the religious knot
superimposed over a trefoil, or something like that. Earned by a basic set
of criteria to be signed off on by the scout's religious and/or family
leader. Not all religious people are affiliated with an organized religion.
Know any Native Americans?
I also find that, as a Texan, my state is taking a lot of fallout. My
precious family code for 'I love you' is 'Don't mess with Texas.' That way
my teenage boys can hear 'I love you' in front of their friends without
It's been my understanding and experience that Scouting doesn't support or
deny any one religion, in principle. Also, that Scouting doesn't support or
deny any one political party, in principle. Maybe Scouting should be on
constant alert for staying pared down to 'principle.'
There's a book I read, a kind of reference book. One of its tenets
is(paraphrased): "The test of any idea is, 'Does it work?'" Scouting has
worked for a long time.
So my question would be where do I look to find the history of the start of
the individual religious awards? What history I have read indicates what my
heart tells me, that camping puts the boys in nature and nature woos them
into wonder about life. The rest is up to their families and their families'
chosen religions. And, hopefully, from our personae.
I'd like to see us (Scouting) out of it. If my ongoing relationship with you
doesn't speak for my practices, no amount of dogma, debate or over verbiage
will touch you.
Yours in the Spirit of Scouting
Troop 16 Corpus Christi TX
----Original Message Follows----
From: Rick Seymour <Rick@KUDU.NET>
Subject: Unitarian / Liberal Scouting Listserv
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2000 10:42:49 -0400
1) Are you a Unitarian or liberal Scout or Scouter?
2) Do you belong to a liberal religion excluded from the BSA Religious
3) Are you a freethinker tired of mean-spirited, conservative <pompous>Blame
the Victim </pompous> replies to your postings to Scouts-L that somehow
manage to COMPLETELY miss the meaning of your premise?
4) When your friends talk about making that tough decision between the two
Presidential candidates, do you assume that they are talking about Al Gore
and Ralph Nader?
5) Finally, when there is a mechanical problem with the Scouts-L Listserv
and you don't get any Email for a couple days, do you secretly make a mental
review of your last few postings wondering if something you wrote
was somehow taken the wrong way by someone living in Texas?
<ker snippedty snip> <g>
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