scouts-l Mail Archive for August of 2000: Re: Scouting business card source
Julia Burnham-Kren (JABarts61@AOL.COM
Wed Aug 16 2000 - 10:26:54 CDT
On Tue, 15 Aug 2000 08:21:21 -0700, Scott Patterson wrote:
>Does any one on the list know of a good source to order some business cards
>with scouting logos. I want to start handing them out at camporee and other
>events. I want the ones with raised print, not the type that I can print at
>home on my printer.
"Raised print" is called thermography and is available through most small
offset print shops. They are relatively inexpensive.
On Wed, 16 Aug 2000 9:08:59 AM, Wendell Brown wrote:
>Actually, I think any local printer CAN print this kind of card and
>probably has the fleur in a logo book.
Yes, at least the print shop I manage does. Some thermograph business card
suppliers do not have the logo, so you may supply them with a good black and
white copy of the logo if you wish.
>However, the other day I was at our local scout shop and the use of BSA
>logos came up in regards to having shirts manufactured. It seems that
>someone mentioned having custom shirts printed with the logo and the
>scout shop person told me afterward "we know people do it but I had to
>tell them that it isn't approved" (she may have said legal instead of
No, it is not legal to use it. If you do, it is called "copyright
infringement". (I am not a lawyer, and I would welcome any correction in the
areas where I am wrong.) The BSA owns the copyright on the BSA logo. It is
not to be used by anyone except National without their permission.
>I'm not saying that you shouldn't do it (I print my own)
>but I am saying that it seems to me that BSA has the legal right to
>limit the use of the logo in ways that could be considered competition
Also, the copyright limits the use of the logo so that it is not used
improperly (i.e. decorations on boxer shorts, tatoos....)
Boys that are Boy Scouts are held to a higher standard than your average boy.
The logo is a symbol that is recognized around the world (just like
McDonald's golden arches) and is associated with a standard of excellence of
personal character and high moral honor.
It would be nice if National would allow us to use the Cub Scout and Boy
Scout logos for our Pack and Troop T-shirts, or come up with a design similar
to license to each unit for their own use. Until then, it would be wise to
avoid using those logos. There are some license-free type logos that would
still be recognized as Boy Scouting related (try a campaign hat, tent,
neckerchief or square knot). You might also ask a talented artist Scout to
design a logo for you. A Scout from my son's Troop designed their T-shirt (a
very nice eagle silouhette with a shield).
Pack 236/Troop 55/DesPlaines Valley Council/Illinois