scouts-l Mail Archive for August of 2000: Re: Venture Crew Experience
Cooper Wright (CoopWright@AOL.COM
Tue Aug 15 2000 - 13:32:11 CDT
I hear you, but I think the success or failure of any program really has a lot to do with how it is planned and carried out. Venturing does offer something to the older boy. It offers association with youth of his or her age. If you had an 11 year old son and his favorite playmate was a 17 year old boy who lived up the street, wouldn't you consider that somewhat odd? That is what we expecting of our older scouts who "don't wanna be around younger scouts". That point aside, what does Venturing offer that a Venture patrol cannot? First it offers a new and exciting advancement program that will challenge any older youth. Land navigation now includes the use of GPS, first aid requires certification. Take a look at the requirements for Ranger and Silver. They were developed with the older youth in mind to teach leadership and outdoor skills. Second, because you have a more mature group of young people in Venturing, you can function at an entirely different level. Adults !
take on the role of a mentor. That is a giant step and it requires a lot more listening than talking.
I agree with you that asking a boy to be active in both a troop and a crew is a lot and the boy will probably fail. I also believe that Venturing is not for every young man. In our crew's case, only about half of the troop's Venture patrol decided to go into Venturing. As I said in my earlier post, some young men like being in the troop where they by their age and experience have become the top dog.
I know that this is the Scouts-L list and not the Venture list, so I wanted another side of the issue to be raised. The greatest resistance to Venturing here in our district (and I am sure in many other districts out there) comes from tried and true Scouters that see it "taking away our older scouts." It is my belief that scouts will vote with their feet. If I can keep them in a program that seeks to "provide an environment where they can grow into responsible and caring adults", so much the better. We all want the best possible sports, academics, drama (you fill in the blank) program for our children. Why not include Venturing?
Advisor, Crew 1519 (two years)
ASM-Venture, Troop 1519 (nine years)