scouts-l Mail Archive for August of 2000: Re: Venture Crew Experience
Jim Peterson (kupete@FALCON.CC.UKANS.EDU
Tue Aug 15 2000 - 11:13:06 CDT
> I am looking for direct experience in the establishement of a Venture Crew.
Hi Ray, L-ers!
I think it depends on what you're trying to do with the older scouts. Yep,
they sure do get bored doing the same things over and over. So don't do
We had a Venturing Crew start with a couple of dads and 8-12 of the 14
year-old Life scouts. The program emphasis was High Adventure Trips.
Their biggest gripe with the troop?,,,,"we don't wanna be around younger
scouts". I guess have a problem with a statement like that, but let me put
that aside for the moment. They decided to keep it an "all male" crew.
They tried to dual register with the troop. BIG PROBLEM. Boys of that age
have a hard time getting to ONE unit's meetings let alone TWO. So what
happened....obviously, they stopped being active in the troop. Problems
started because the troop lost all of it's older scout experience and
leadership. The Venturing Crew became a kind of "exotic location camping
club"...pretty expensive events run by a couple of the leader-fathers.
Several scouts dropped out. More problems occured when they wanted to come
back and get Eagle through the troop....lots of hard feelings.
The bottom line? What did a separate Venture Crew unit offer these scouts
that our troop couldn't? Not much really. With the Venture Patrol option
open to the troop, the older scouts can hold occasional separate meetings
to hold High Adventure events......AND the troop benefits because the older
guys are still VISIBLE (even if only OCCASIONALLY interactive) with the
troop's younger scouts. Frankly, sometimes it only takes the mere
"presence" of an older boy to verify for the younger boy that "scouts must
still be cool if the older boys are still here". The Venture Patrol method
also can hold a "carrot" if you make obtaining Life rank or "one more
Eagle required MB" a prerequisite for attending that next High Adventure
Just my experiences.....others will have others.
BLUE SKIES!, Any day above ground is a good day!
Jim Peterson (of the Kansas variety)
ADC, Pelathe District
Heart of America Council Eagle Class of 1963
ASM, T-55, Lawrence, Kansas Brotherhood, Tamegonit Lodge
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