scouts-l Mail Archive for August of 2000: Re: Venture Crew Experience - In Reply
Darryl Hammill (darryl.hammill@NCMAIL.NET
Tue Aug 15 2000 - 07:47:27 CDT
First of all, I would highly recommend you join the Venture Listserv;
email@example.com. This has been a valuable resource - and there are few if
any topics restricted. An excellent source of experience and details.
Who has run/ is running a successful crew? We were in a similar situation with
our Troop; saw the same warning signals with the older Scouts. I chartered a
Crew through our Church. We began with 9 Crew Members. Now up to 12. We are not
experiencing explosive growth, but that is probably a good thing because we can
focus on doing the right things. The structure of a Crew is more conducive to
the older young men and women of our Crew (as opposed to a more traditional BSA
Unit). The Advisor/Venturer relationship for leadership positions is a much
better environment also - very reminiscent of the OA model.
Did you attract older youth from other troops/ outside scouting ( a very
important topic)? Other Troops, yes. Outside of Scouting - since we were set up
from the start to accommodate young ladies - yes indeed. Having female adult
leaders and young ladies in the Crew has been a very positive thing in fact.
They bring a set of skills to youth leadership that I have to admit is a
refreshing change of pace for me (as the Advisor).
What did you have for activities? One of the first things you want to do is grab
the Activities Survey from the Venturing Leadership Handbook and on your First
Nighter make real sure to have any attendee fill it out. I have even adapted it
for use with our Troop - this takes all the guesswork or arguments out of "what
Did the crew go Coed? From the start!
Did you convert the entire troop or start a new Crew? Since the age restriction
is 14 and out of 8th Grade we could not convert the Troop. But, that was not
ever our intention. We (the Crew) is the next logical step in a member of the
Troop's Scouting experience. We can and do things far beyond the scope of the
Troop's. We want to be a compliment to the Troop's efforts. Those young men who
cross registered have all decided at this time to stay in the Troop. Remember,
however, that if a young man is at least First Class when he joins he can
complete all requirements all the way to Eagle in a Crew if he chooses to. Also,
a Crew's top limit on age of Crew members is 21.
On a side note, our Crew was chartered through the Church to help reinvigorate a
stagnant Youth Group. To that matter we have been successful - though sadly no
one has stepped forward to address the younger youth of our Parish. I am
confident that perhaps the Crew itself can play that role in the future.
Hope all of this helps.