scouts-l Mail Archive for August of 2000: Re: non-denominational
Dick, Sheldon Mr. (dicks@HQ.5SIGCMD.ARMY.MIL
Mon Aug 14 2000 - 07:01:38 CDT
Richard Shipley posted the comment quoted below.
i do not quite agree (except the point about bickering which ofttimes misses
the issue here (at least inititally) was not who is invited to scout
religious observances, or who goes, (or whether to have them), but what to
it was about scouters choosing words which make an effort to have similar
interpretations by most scouts/scouters who hear or read them.
BSA makes this observartion :
"Nondenominational" usually means Protestant and is not suitable for many
faiths, including non-Christians.
"Religious observance", "interfaith" "Scouts' own" - are probably better
that was my point.
but richard opens another, more significant issue which i will address.
i support the idea of scouts/scouters attending or visiting religious
services other than their own (subject, of course to concurrence of the
leadership of the services involved, and the approval of the scout's own
"seeing the light" in this sense, is one of education and understanding -
not necessarily that of common prayer. it's "visiting" and not
many councils/districts schedule such events for scout sunday/sabbath.
but it is quite one thing to attend such a service - knowing it is NOT your
own religion's - and being asked to attend and participate in one which is
purported to be "interfaith" and finding that was not the case. that can be
the fault of ignorance on the part of the "organizers", or blatant disregard
of the sensitivities of the scouts/scouters who are asked to participate.
just because we did it that way yesterday, does not make it right.
Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 10:05:38 -0500
From: Richard Shipley <rpshipley@AMERITECH.NET>
Subject: Re: non-denominational
Folks I see us getting ready to go where we do not wish to go(i.e.:
bickering). Let us not forget that as long as the observance acknowledges a
higher being then all is well and good. I have had non-Jewish boys go to
Jewish services and Jewish boys go to Protestant service and I might add by
their own choice. So as long as a higher being is acknowledged then the
boys will see the light so to speak.