scouts-l Mail Archive for July of 2000: Camp Baldwin
Berk Moss (mossfam@TELEPORT.COM
Sat Jul 22 2000 - 14:23:13 CDT
Hi Bob -
I've been to Camp Baldwin many times and found it to be a top quality
camp. The horses are a big draw, but the whole program is top-notch.
Re: Meals. I once had a conversation with some Scouters about
patrol cooking and one said that the time needed for cooking
detracted from the program. But another put it this way "Learning to
work together to get a meal done <<is>> the program!" I agree. So the
troop leaders (SPL, ASPL, TG etc) need to be ready to lead the new
patrol leaders in leading their patrols in getting the job done. The
adult leaders need to know how to support the leadership and how and
when to step in and quickly step out.
A new patrol leader will try to be "Patrol Commander" and when that
doesn't work, (and I can guarantee it won't) he usually tries "Patrol
Martyr" and do everything himself. After these two phases, he will
get into leading by example, developing group pride, etc. Is this
the program or not? I think is is more of the program than leather
work or knots.
Adults need to remember three principles.
First, never do something for a boy he can do for himself. (that is a
form of respect.).
Second, a patrol that can't work together at dinner, with correct
guidance in reflection will probably work together at breakfast and
most certainly work together by lunch --IF AND ONLY IF, THE ADULTS
DON'T RESCUE THEM BY FEEDING THEM. When they ask for food, have a
conversation about how the patrol can work better and what the
individual scout can do to help.
Third, leadership and follower-ship are things to be learned not just
demanded. The SPL, ASPL, and adults need to TEACH these traits.
I loved Baldwin. My troop usually camps there on alternate years and
considers it our "home camp"
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Bob T> Subject: Camp Baldwin
Bob T> I would like to hear from a troop that has been to Camp Baldwin
Bob T> (Cascade pacific Council) recently; what their experience in
Bob T> general was like, and in particular, how the Scouts fared
Bob T> cooking all their meals instead of eating in a dining hall.