scouts-l Mail Archive for July of 2000: Re: Eagle or Not
Jonathan Dixon (dixonj@COLORADO.EDU
Mon Jul 17 2000 - 16:57:31 CDT
On Mon, 17 Jul 2000, Ted Mahler wrote:
> My questions for my Scouter friends;
> Do I have to sign off requirement 2 if I don't feel he lives up to the
> Scout law and oath in his everyday life?
No, and in fact I would say you have a responsibility NOT to sign it if
you don't feel it has been completed.
> If I sign this off I feel I am doing a disservice to the troop and to
> scouting. Yet I am not all knowing and I may be falsely denying a boy
> something that he has but one chance to earn.
> Am I making to big a deal about this? Am I churning my stomach over
> something that in the overall scheme of the universe is not worth the
> lost sleep?
>From what you have said, it seems you cannot in good conscience sign off
on that requirement. In order to be fair, I would suggest that you hold a
SM conference with the young man and be direct and up-front with him about
this fact. Before the meeting, come up with a representative list of
specific examples where his behavior has fallen short. Also come up with
a specific list of things which have to improve and a time-frame which you
will evaluate over (and preferably interim waypoints). I won't lie to
you, this is likely to be a very contentious meeting, but will probably be
best for all parties (and especially the young man) in the long run. I
will leave to your judgement whether to brief the parents beforehand or
I did a similar thing with a boy going towards Life at one point, with
very good results. While he didn't become an angel overnight, his
behavior improved remarkably over the time until he reached the point of
being a reasonable member of the troop. It was a tough SM Conference, but
it needed to be done. Besides, isn't that what they pay us the big bucks