scouts-l Mail Archive for July of 2000: New Scout Patrols to Permanent Patrols
Jim Muir (jpmuir@GWIS.COM
Sun Jul 16 2000 - 09:54:50 CDT
> Subject: New Scout Patrols to Permanent Patrols
> I'd like to know how you all are using the New Scout Patrol approach
> (outlined in the SM Handbook).
> 1) How long does your troop use the New Scout Patrol?
Assuming that we get a patrol sized lot from Webelos bridgeover. . .Until
at least 80% of them reach first class. If they attend summer camp (first year
emphasis) they may, if they work hard, achieve first class by January or
> 2) What tells you it's time to merge the New Scouts into the permanent
Once 80 % reach first class, the patrol may "form" as a permanent patrol. This
is usually the case, but some may wish to merge into other existing patrols.
> 3) How do you merge them?
We permit the boys to re-form patrols just prior to any troop election. Troop
Elections are late Jan/early Feb and July just after Summer Camp but before the
annual planning and training conference. We have used the "List three friends
you wish to be in a patrol list" and subsequently formed patrols around it, or,
better, let the boys just physically attract to the patrol of choice. A lot of
this is "observed" in summer camp, where you see the boys naturally aligning
> 4) How do you start new permanent Patrols when you've grown such that the
> existing ones do not accommodate all of the New Scouts?
As mentioned, the new patrol is a patrol in every respect except one. We rotate
the PL every month or two to give more boys an opportunity to lead. Once they
permanent status arrives, there is not "start" and they just keep on patrolling.
> 5) If you don't use the New Scout Patrol, why?
> We do, but if the numbers of new boys was too low to make up a real patrol, we
> would have to merge them into existing patrols.
> 6) How much does your PLC do in managing this?
The PLC , especially the SPL run the elections, and set up the patrol
alignments. We as adult leaders simply sit back and work with the SPL in solving
the problems inherent in boys switching around patrols. As to the New Patrol,
the Troop Guide is the observer/facilitator of its progress, in conjunction with
the Assistant SM for new patrols.
> 7) What special thing works really well for your New Scout Patrols?
Troop Guide and ASM for new patrols. Definitely attending Summer Camp. It is
never perfect, but it really works.
Jim Muir, SM
I used to be an OWL C-14L-99
Old Portage District
Great Trail Council