scouts-l Mail Archive for July of 2000: Re: Table manners
Jason Cruse (jcruse@SOCKET.NET
Thu Jun 29 2000 - 07:03:04 CDT
>>But a lot of Boy Scout skills were taught in that time. Doesn't that go
>>back to the thread of teaching boys what it means to be men? Knowing
>>proper manners and social graces are an essential part of becoming the
>>kind of men I want my sons to become!
>I want my son to speak French, does that mean scouting should teach him?
>Better yet, I want my son to use proper birth control methods if he and a
>loved one choose to have sex. That's an essential part of being the kind of
>man I want him to be, by your logic Scouting should teach him!
If knowing French were considered, or even generally considered, to be an
essential part of life, then yes, I would think we should find it in
scouting. By the way, as far as that goes, I don't think it is a mere
coincidence that scouting recognizes those who speak other languages...
If table manners aren't considered "essential" or "necessary" anymore, then
it is because society has moved away from them. I think that there is room
in scouting for leaders to teach MANY skills, including manners...
>Scouting teaches the philosophical and moral underpinnings, not the how to
>of everything. The How to is outdoor skills, it's Scouting's method.
Um....like the three required Citizenship merit badges for Eagle? I realize
Bob wasn't trying to THAT far with his comment, but let's not get all wound
up in the "outing of scouting." There are many, many thing that scouting
teaches without ever getting outside. Just ask my troop, who last year
earned their atomic energy and chemistry merit badges as a group...