scouts-l Mail Archive for June of 2000: Re: Last Minute Eagles
David Haley (dlhaley@KNOLOGY.NET
Sat Jun 24 2000 - 11:01:32 CDT
"We, my wife and I, feel that, at his age, he is not able to see and
evaluate the intrinsic value throughout his life of attaining Eagle as a
youth. We decided to set forth some objectives for him. Some 'values' he
can see and appreciate now. They are, in no particular order:
1. No Drivers License until Eagle.
2. No dates until Eagle and 16, whichever comes later.
3. No out-of-state tours with CDT until Eagle."
Just had to reply to this one. We've all been worried about adding
requirements to advancements. Now we have some that add requirements to
normal teenage life. It seems to me that making Eagle is more important to
the parents than the scouts. I guess I must relate my Eagle son's
experience to the thread.
My son had completed all Eagle requirements to include his project long
before his 15th birthday. All that was left was finishing his packet and
his BOR. Then it happened.... Problems at school and home started to
disrupt his life. He was still active in his troop, leading, teaching,
helping. But no Eagle packet, One year past, still no packet. Some gentle
hints, reminders and prodding from his father (me) and his Scout master fail
to produce an Eagle packet. Two years past. Still very active in troop.
Then Eagle requirements were changed. He had until April 30, 1999 to submit
his packet or a waiver would be needed. With the waiver he had until
September 30, 1999 to finish it all up.... Finally, in August I reminded
him of where he was and what was needed to complete his Eagle requirements.
Let him talk to a few influential folks about what being an Eagle Scout
means, and told him I was already proud of him and that if he did not make
Eagle sure I would be disappointed, but no less proud of his accomplishments
and contributions to both scouting and the community.
Don't know what finally did it, but during our first meeting in September he
turned his Eagle Packet in to his Scoutmaster and passed his Eagle BOR on
Sept 29. (Two days later he would have had to complete personal fitness
mb). He turned 17 two weeks later.
The decision to achieve Eagle Scout must be the scouts decision. We can
help him with information, support, and encouragement. But not achieving
Eagle does not mean the scout did not learn or contribute or that he is a
failure. If all scout became Eagle then the rank would lose its meaning.