scouts-l Mail Archive for June of 2000: Re: Last Minute Eagles
Jason Cruse (jcruse@SOCKET.NET
Thu Jun 22 2000 - 12:55:17 CDT
>On Wed, 21 Jun 2000, Darryl Hammill wrote:
>> I do not agree that a 14.8 year old young man understands or comprehends
>> the significance of becoming an Eagle Scout. Furthermore, I am not 100%
>> convinced that a 14.8 year old Scout would attempt an equal Eagle
>> project to a 17 year old young man
So what? A young man can achieve Eagle, if he is motivated and if he is in
a very active troop when he is 13. So what? What difference does it make?
Do I, now that I am 30, "understand" being an Eagle more than I did when I
was 13 and earned it? Yes. Should a 17 year-old understand more than a 14
year-old? Of course. But since I understand it better now anyway, perhaps
we should drop all age requirements?
Of course not...that is ludicrous.
We keep coming back to the same things...if BSA meant for there to be an age
requirement, it would exist. If BSA meant for something about
"understanding" to be part of the requirements, there would be an essay as
part of the final requirements. It isn't there. It never has been there
(the essay...there used to be more time restrictions, but it was still
possible to complete by the time a boy turned 13).
A 13 year-old understands Eagle as a 13 year old...a 17 year-old as a 17
year old...a 30 year old...and so forth. So what? Does it make ANY
difference? It does not...except in those who want to make adjustments to
BSA policy, which they are not authorized to do.
I encourage my boys to earn their Eagle young. Yes, I'm admitting it
publicly on this list. I ENCOURAGE YOUNG EAGLES! I have two scouts right
now who will likely earn it when they are 13 1/2. I'M GLAD! Then I will
have boys who can move on to other things and fully experience everything
scouting has to offer without advancement sitting somewhere behind. After I
earned my eagle, I: was a two-term lodge chief; section OA vice-chief;
world jambo patrol leader; national jambo SPL; 4 time participant at
Philmont...and so forth. Having my Eagle completed was specifically why I
was able to do some of those things (as I was told by Jambo scoutmasters).
Having it completed allowed me to spend summers doing other stuff, rather
than worrying about merit badges or a project when other things had my
Attention any and all youth here who have been discouraged from earning your
Eagle young: please move to Hannibal, Missouri and join Troop 147. We
Jason A. Cruse
Dept. of Political Science
University of Missouri-Columbia