scouts-l Mail Archive for June of 2000: Re: Last Minute Eagles
Peter Farnham (pfarnham@ASBMB.FASEB.ORG
Mon Jun 19 2000 - 08:48:09 CDT
Forwarding to the list, as Ryan's request.
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Ryan Keil <firstname.lastname@example.org> on 06/16/2000 01:36:50 PM
To: Peter Farnham <pfarnham@ASBMB.FASEB.ORG>
Subject: Re: Last Minute Eagles
My e-mail address is in flux, so I can recieve the list posting (via
address aliasing) but I can not post to the list. Would you please pass
this along for me? TIA!!
My oldest son is 14.5 years. Here's a snapshot of his non-Scouting
life. He's been interested in girls since he was, oh, about two. He is a
member of the Childrens Dance Theater at the University of Utah. As such,
he in a dance class two evenings a week. He is also helping to teach
another class (Virginia Tanner Dance), which means he's at the studio
another night. CDT is a nationally renowned program. They do a local
performace schedule, and an annual tour. The tour alternates between
regional tours and international tours yearly. This year, the company is
going to Dance and the Child International (daCi). daCi is held
tri-annualy, and is in Canada this year. He will have one more
opportunity to go to daCi before he turns 18 and is no longer eligible.
(Two years ago, right before he was accepted into the company, they went
to Scotland for two weeks.)
For two to three months prior to their performance schedule, and for
several weeks prior to their tour schedule, the rehearsal schedule builds
until the dancers are at the studio for two to six hours a day. (My son,
being one of the twelve boys in a company of 290 dancers, and really
rather talented, is on the six-hours-a-day schedule, plus an extra hour or
In Scouting, he's Star (1/2 of Cycling Merit Badge away from Life), a
Brotherhood member of El-Ku-Ta Lodge 520, Order of the Arrow, on staff for
Coup Trail (an expanded training program for members of the Order of the
Arrow, based on the national JLT program). He multi-registered in two
Troops and one Varsity Team.
Like so many of our sons, he feels he has too many commitments in his life
to dedicate "too much" time to working on Eagle, although he says he wants
We, my wife and I, feel that, at his age, he is not able to see and
evaluate the intrinsic value throughout his life of attaining Eagle as a
youth. We decided to set forth some objectives for him. Some 'values' he
can see and appreciate now. They are, in no particular order:
1. No Drivers License until Eagle.
2. No dates until Eagle and 16, whichever comes later.
3. No out-of-state tours with CDT until Eagle.
Now, the first two "requirements" have been in place since he was twelve.
He's been Star for over a year, so we felt those two requirements weren't
sufficient to impress upon him the importance we associate with his
attainment of Eagle. Thus, we added the third requirement.
We don't feel that we are applying a great deal of pressure to him to
attain Eagle. But we feel obligated to impress upon him in some way the
personal value he will derive from it. For this reason, we have created a
situation where he will make decisions about his involvement in Scouting
in a context that he can personally understand and evaluate. If there's a
Scouting event we feel he should attend, we can point out that it bears on
his Drivers License, dating, and CDT tours. _He_ still makes the
decision. And his decision is based on values he can relate to, as
opposed to Mom's or Dad's ". . . because I think you ought to go"
If he gets his Eagle, it will be because he made the decisions and did the
work. If he doesn't get it, it will be, again, because he made the
(default) decisions and received the consequences. But he, personally,
has context and framework that his mind can easily wrap around.
(Now, I don't mean to say that he has hard time grasping things like
intrinsic values, core values, complex reasoning dilemmas, are any such
thing. He's very bright and astute. But he's also a teenager, and gets
sidetracked very easily. So we've created a decision context than he can
grasp even in the light of his "teenage thinking" -- we hope. And we
hope he won't be a "last minute Eagle" because we've afforded him this
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