scouts-l Mail Archive for June of 2000: Should Every Boy be an Eagle?
Murphy Peter (MurphyP@TCE.COM
Wed Jun 14 2000 - 09:13:48 CDT
Please help me in my struggle with my conscious.
A gentleman in my troop has taken on the job of nagging all those boys who
Life for a couple of years to get off their duffs and finish up their Eagle.
He was able to
convince a boy, who had given up 4 months shy of 18, that there was enough
do several merit badges and a project. The boy passed his Eagle BoR last
Sometimes I wonder if this gentleman is crossing the line between
encouraging the boys
and carrying them across the finish line. I think some of my Life Scouts are
work because it's easier than listening to his nagging. But that's another
There's a boy who's been in the troop for 6 years. Was Second Class for most
6 years. Became First Class almost a year ago. Needs 2 Eagle required merit
for Star. Has only 10+ months until he turns 18. The chief pusher wants this
get his Eagle. So he asked me if it would be alright for the boy to do the 2
required merit badges and then back date them and the Star BoR to last
My initial reaction is I'm uncomfortable signing my name and attesting to
I know is not true. When I think about being trustworthy and honest, this
like I'm being asked to lie and cheat. It was argued that maybe we would
just be giving
the boy credit for things he's done prior to turning 17.
I do not believe every boy needs to be an Eagle, it's not one of the
aims or goals of Scouting. It's obviously more important to this other
because he's an Eagle and I'm not. IMHO, there's nothing difficult about the
for Eagle. Any boy could accomplish them. Being an Eagle does not say that
accomplished some great task or performed some feat that's beyond the
of most other people. Being an Eagle says that you were self-motivated
an extended period of time to be able to complete a long range goal. And
that is a
special trait to have. If this boy didn't get motivated until after he
turned 17, then maybe
he's not Eagle material.
If I bend the rules for one boy how could I justify not bending them for
others? What criteria
do you use for determining when your bending them too far? What lesson do we
the boys if they know that rules and deadlines do not matter because the
adults in the
troop are willing to lie?
I do not want to be inflexible or zero tolerant or too legalistic or hide
behind the rules to
avoid making a judgment. Thanks for letting me think out loud on this. I'd
our thoughts and opinions.
Peter Murphy, SM Troop 125, Crossroads of America Council