scouts-l Mail Archive for June of 2000: Re: Man and Behavior
Jason Cruse (jcruse@SOCKET.NET
Tue Jun 13 2000 - 11:40:36 CDT
>I will take the challenge.
>A man is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, cheerful,
>obedient, thrifty, brave, clean and reverent. A man is prepared. A man
>does a good turn daily. He understand he has a duty to God and country, to
>other people and to himself. It does not take another man to teach him
>these values, but there is a need that he sees another man follow them.
I'll respond to this challenge in the opposite task.
I learned how to be a man from dad, who was also my scoutmaster. Where did
Let's see...parents divorced. He is an Eagle, but was not extremely close
to his scoutmaster. Somewhat active in church growing...all his teachers
there were women.
I've asked him where he learned how to be a man. His response? His MOM!
Not everyone learns from example; those on this who have a pedagogical
background in education can explain the differences in learning better than
I. Some boys may do better with a man as scoutmaster. Some, however, may
do just as well, or better, hearing from a woman scoutmaster how to be a
scout and a young man. In my opinion, the difference is in the receptor,
not the sender. And, anyone on this list who thinks that all boys learn the
same things, from the same people, in the same ways probably needs to spend
more time with their troop teaching.
My point is this: there are many, many instances in which women are as good
or, heaven forbid, BETTER than men, including in teaching what is expected
of men. This is an argument that says it works both ways, and neither is
BETTER than the other. All things being equal, they are equally suited for
PS: I would add here, however, that I'm glad this discussion doesn't show
on the Venture list. Those on this list who launched personal attacks
yesterday on the "politically correct" and other such rubbish would have
been off the list for such personal attacks before everyone ever received
the post. Is that how we "men" teach our boys? When frustrated, launch
into personal attacks? What a great job "we" are doing...