scouts-l Mail Archive for June of 2000: Re: Changing MB requirements (was: Re: Camping MB at Summer Camp)
Paul S. Wolf (Paul.S.Wolf@ALUM.WPI.EDU
Tue Jun 13 2000 - 08:53:32 CDT
Sarah Nunez wrote:
> On 06/11/00, "Thomas W. Strong Jr." <strong@DEMENTIA.ORG> wrote:
> >> No real problem. Once a boy starts working on a badge, the
> >> requirements in effect at that time may be used until completion of
> >> the badge. Since Camping MB needs 20 nights of camping, the boys
> >> started working on the MB with the earlier set of requirements.
> >> The way I understand it, no harm, no foul.
> >I was trying to find that statement (to settle an argument) in the
> >advancement guidelines the other day, and I was unable to find it
> >there or anywhere else I looked. Do you know where such a statement
> >can be found?
> No, Craig's statement is wrong. The requirements in effect at the
> time he COMPLETES the badge are the ones he must use. When they make
> major changes to the requirements (such as for Personal Fitness), they
> usually allow a grace period to use either the old set or the new set
> of requirements, but there's no "mixing and matching" between the two.
> And when the grace period is over, it's over, and the new requirements
> MUST be used.
> Sarah Nunez
Sarah, based on a letter Cal Gray has from John Dalrymple, and
discussions with John Dalrymple that Bruce cobern and i have both had,
the rule for merit badges is a Scout may complete the badge using the
requirements in effect when he started. I'll have a copy of that letter
in a day or two, and will post a scan of it on the USSSP web site as
soon as possible, for all to see.
"Started" however, is not as Craig effectively said, "they started when
they went on their first campout", but rather, "started" should be taken
to be when the Scout requested and received an Application for Merit
Badge (blue card) from his SM and contacted the assigned Merit Badge
Paul S. Wolf, PE mailto:Paul.S.Wolf@alum.wpi.edu
Advancement/Safety Webmaster, USSSP http://www.usscouts.org
Winding Rivers Dist. Advancement Comm., Greater Cleveland Council, BSA