scouts-l Mail Archive for June of 2000: Re: Ahem and sexism in Scouting
Mick Cole (MicCCole@AOL.COM
Sun Jun 11 2000 - 19:03:54 CDT
In a message dated 6/11/2000 3:20:14 PM SA Western Standard Time,
> >In my view, anyone who lacks the ability to judge everyone on the merits,
> without regard to gender, needs to ask themselves >whether they have what
> takes to be a proper role model.
> > It's about the development of youth into responsible adults.
> > YIS
> > Mick Cole
> Well Mick, we do agree on that point and if you had read and understood my
> full posting(s), instead of pulling out the bit you wanted to be able paint
> with such a broad brush anyone who questions the role of women in Scouting,
> perhaps we could have discussed amicably where we don't agree. Should I ask
> whether anyone who lacks the ability to read and understand a post on a
> subject that is far from one dimensional should question, to use your
> "whether they have what it takes to be a proper role model"?
> I will repeat in the simplest fashion possible what my point is:
> 1) Boys grow into men
> 2) Boys need positive male influence to grow into good emotionally healthy
> 3) Scouting is a vehicle where this very important need can be satisfied.
> 4) Women are not men.(men are not women)
> Is that clear?
> I will now state for the record what I did not say:
> 1) Men are better than women
> 2) Women don't have any role in Scouting
> 3) I don't value daughters
> 4)Women are inferior in any way WHATSOEVER!
> The world is not black and white but infinite shades of gray; keep your big
> broad politically correct paintbrushes far away from me. Thank you.
> Bob Lazell
> SM Troop 127
> Valley Cottage, NY (so, who will be the first to only read the second
> list, quote it, and yell "flame on!)
Perhaps I did misunderstand your posting. I read it to mean that, in your
opinion, no woman is qualified to serve as a SM or SA, which aside from being
inconsistent with BSA policy, IMHO is simple b...s.... Hopefully, that is
plain enough to be understood by anyone. If you actually meant that women can
be qualified to serve as a SM or SA, please so state explicitly, and I will
apologize. Otherwise, I stand by my posting.