scouts-l Mail Archive for June of 2000: Re: Zero Tolerance & Uniforms
MAJ) Mike Walton (settummanque, the blackeagle (blkeagle@USSCOUTS.ORG
Thu Jun 08 2000 - 23:17:46 CDT
You wrote in part:
>It would make me feel more comfortable and the BSA professionals more
>accountable if BSA opened its(our) books and reported to the Better
>Business Bureau's Philanthropic Advisory Service.
I agree with you that such a report should be made, and like the BSA did
prior to 1986, a summary of that financial report be included in the public
editions of the Report to the Nation, which appeared in _Scouting_ and
available separately from the Communications Division of the BSA.
>Even the United Way, which came under attack some years ago, didn't
>withdraw to the shadows. The President of the United States's salary is
>$200,000, and whose "staff" well exceeds 3,000. The CEO of the 1999
>Nobel Peace Prize winner - Doctors Without Borders is $70,000.
This morning during the drive, I was listening to Bob Edwards and NPR's
Morning Edition. In one of Bob's stories this morning, was the "retooling
of Goodwill Industries" on the west coast...including snazzy new print and
video ads similar to the Gap's advertisments...and the retooling of their
stores to "get rid of the musty used clothing smell" and to paint and
refursh them to become more competitive with all other retail clothing and
small item stores in the community.
One of the things noted was that Board of Directors is paying the President
of Goodwill there a HALF MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR. When asked about the
excesses of such a salary, both the president of the board as well as the
marketing/PR director both stated "this guy has given a lot of direction to
our efforts; we have made X amount (I forget the amount of money, but it
was like 30 or 40 perecent more than they were making at their stores five
years back) and we don't him to leave...."
Again, that's a lot of money for a president of a used-clothing and item
chain, no matter where it is. But if he's PERFORMING and DOING THE FIRM
WELL, then it is up to that Board to determine the worth of the President.
In a likewise manner, we have a Chief Scout Executive, that is responsible
for the direction of the Boy Scouts of America...the nation's premiere
youth-serving agency, with "local chapters" in every city with a population
of at least 100K, and in some cities with populations way less than that.
His success or failure is tied to the amount of money he and his staff
receives...we all know this. So, if the National Executive Board is paying
him close to a $1M for his services, he's GOT to produce.....or leave.
He has left and the new guy is about ready to assume the role of Chief
>Mike wrote: "I was told by two senior professionals (one of whom
>still reads the list!) that the retirement and the Scout Executives'
>Alliance funds are "self-supporting" from income pooled into the funds
>and from good investing of those funds."
>Ah, the faith of a mustard seed! Wasn't it Ronald Reagan who liked to
>quote a Russian proverb: "Trust, but verify."?
If I was a professional, I would receive a quarterly (pros, help me out
here: is it quarterly or biannaully??) statement of what was placed into
the Pooled Income Fund from my authorized withdrawals of my paychecks and
what was matched, and what it was invested in and what was the outcome...in
short, I would know, just like any other employee whose firm invested a
portion of their paychecks into a 401K or other pension plan, where the
The Scout Executive Alliance, I never received anything except a paystub
with the amount withdrawn; but that was maybe because I was a parapro and
not a full time executive...or for other reasons (my salary came from a
grant, so maybe they couldn't imput it into the SEA from there...not
sure...I didn't ask and really didn't care...I was just happy to be doing
what I was doing at the time..*smiling broadly*)
>Mike, also, wrote: "...manage, with a staff of 3000 or so... close to
>150,000 volunteers....yes, you too would ask for five or so grand a
>month to retire from.
>Remember, Rick, a million dollars SOUND like a whole lot of money, but
>even in today's times, that money, unless he invests it soundly and gets good
>advice and makes the right decisions, will be gone in a little more than
>Somehow, as a volunteer, I don't sense that I'm "managed". If many of
>us felt "managed" there would be fewer of us. The only overbearing
>"management" centers around the 3Gs, unless I'm insensitive. So let's
>not give credit where none is due.
I hate to say this, Jay, but every time we at the District or Council level
interact with a professional, we are being "managed". Our executives
"manage our growth" by coaching us, by encouraging us and in some cases, by
discouraging us. Our executives also manage the growth of the Council and
it's Districts by the promotion or lack of promotion of various programs,
events and even through membership enrollment. Yeah, we're being
"managed"....that's why some volunteers leave the program: because of the
OVERBEARING amount of "management" being laid on them and their
unconfortable feeling about being "managed" in a volunteer program.
There's a fine art to "Managing Volunteers", and it's taught each year
during the Regional parts of the Professional Executive Institute, or PEI.
I got a taste of it my second year as a Paraprofessional when I and the
five other PPs attended the Southeast Region's ALL HANDS meeting and
training conference. "Managing Volunteers" and how to do it effectively
has always been a part of being an effective professional...how much
pressure and direction to give, and how to let go and let them chart their
direction themselves. How to "rein in" those outside the group and how to
gracefully tell a volunteer "sorry, we can't use you this year...." It all
gets taught; a few have mastered that fine art...and those are the
individuals you see today managing our local Councils and national divisions.
>Somehow the CSE's financial distress doesn't resonate with me either.
>Most persons, of retirement age, don't have such an entitlement. And,
>if you blow a million in liquid assets in ten years the teachings of
>Personal Management MB weren't learned.
True. But remember that they weren't Scouts...therefore they didn't have
the benefit of being taught the essence of the Personal Management or
Personal Finances, or Savings merit badges.
Most persons of retirement age, Jay, didn't run a multi-billion dollar
corporation, either. *smiling*
>I suspect that the leverage is (or should be) about the same. It is
>probably true that BSA has to provide for a greater variety of sizes,
>but there are more Scout(er)s (at any given time) than those in the
>military (not just Army), and they grow out of uniforms with greater
The military, for instance, does not have to stock uniforms in 4X sizes.
The BSA does. Nor do they have to stock uniforms for the smallest of
The BSA does that too. And let's not forget that the Supply Division also
manages all of those books and literature aids, and equipment -- of a far
lessor degree than our military's stockpiles and warehouses full of just
(MAJ) Mike L. Walton (settummanque, the blackeagle)
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