scouts-l Mail Archive for June of 2000: Re: Troop Leadership Positions
Jim McMaster (mcmaster@SWENG.STORTEK.COM
Thu Jun 08 2000 - 12:15:41 CDT
In message <B56544BB.email@example.com>, Brian Nielsen said:
> on 6/8/00 8:56 AM, Paul S. Wolf at Paul.S.Wolf@ALUM.WPI.EDU wrote:
> >> It is my policy that the scout must meet the minimum requirements to
> >> get credit for the position toward rank.
> > That sounds all well and good, except it specifically is counter to the
> > requirement that no more and no less than the written requirement may be
> > used. If he HELD the position for the required term, he has MET the
> > requirement, no matter how well he did.
> Seems this thread is getting a little heavy, but I have to question some of
> what I'm reading. No where in the requirements book do I read that the
> requirement is simply to HOLD the position. The language is "While a _____
> Scout, SERVE ACTIVELY for ___ months..."
> I fully support the notion of requiring no more and no less than the written
> requirement, but I clearly read this one as a subjective requirement that is
> not merely met by holding the position "no matter how well he did."
> Unfortunately we have had some Scouts who have been elected or appointed to
> positions and then done virtually nothing. They may have HELD the position,
> but they certainly have not SERVED ACTIVELY.
I agree with your interpretation the Scout must "serve actively," but
legalese comes into play here. According to the BSA, absent evidence to the
contrary, "active" means on the roster and "serving" means wearing the patch.
If it comes to an appeal, the BSA will always rule that way, since the
officials in Dallas have nothing else to go on.
If a Scout is not "active," the burden is on the troop to remove him from the
roster before the requirement is met. If he is not "actively serving" in
office, it is the unit's responsibility to remove him from office before the
requirement is met. If the unit let's things slide until the time is up, it
cannot just say, "You were not active enough," and refuse to sign the book.
The Scout will always win if he appeals. What you and I believe does not
matter at that point.
Scoutmaster, Troop 70; Longs Peak Council, BSA; Boulder, CO, USA
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