scouts-l Mail Archive for June of 2000: Zero Tolerance Arguments
Dale Karweik (karweik.1@OSU.EDU
Fri Jun 02 2000 - 13:09:03 CDT
>Freedom is my not having to worry that I or my children are going to be
>injured or killed by some little 13 year old who is allowed access to a
You have a very false sense of security. The 13 year old kid who kills
your daughter will not be put off by having a contraband violation added to
the crime of murder. Laws do not and never have created morality. The
banning of ALL possible items that could be used to injure others will
still not produce the result you seek.
>Would you feel the same had YOUR child been kill?
YES. I would be a very torn up person if my child was killed. I would
feel hatred toward the killer. But it would not change my belief that
zero tolerance was wrong. The world is not, and never will be, a safe,
secure place no matter how many things are banned and removed. I know that
and so do my children and my Scouts. We knew this hundreds of years ago -
read Snow White (the curse on the spinning wheel).
We live in fragile bodies that can stop working due to a variety of causes.
We need to train, educate,..... youth to understand this and to respect
it. Nothing is worth taking a life except the defense of your own life.
However, this cannot be inculcated into a person by removing physical
objects. It is an attitude, a belief, a moral code of conduct. I am in
Scouting to teach this and other facts of life. I will limit access to
some items until physical ability and mental maturity are present to
promote safe use of dangerous tools but I will never promote zero tolerance
I hope you never live to find that your freedoms have eroded one small bit
at a time until they are gone entirely. Freedom is not free. Freedom
was paid for by blood, sweat, agony and lives. Freedom is not a license to
do anything you want, it is only the right to act responsibly and that
right has a price. The price of Freedom is eternal vigilance.
I also hope no parent is ever the recipient of a visit from an officer to
take you to the hospital to identify someone you knew. I hope you will
never endure the agony of being a parent whose wonderful child died for any
reason other than old age. But if you attempt to accomplish that by bans
and zero tolerances, you will see me on the other side of the fence.