scouts-l Mail Archive for June of 2000: Re: Philmont First Aid Reqs??
Robert Lewis (rlewis6@NYCAP.RR.COM
Thu Jun 01 2000 - 06:18:05 CDT
the First Aid merit badge training was not acceptable! They said that
>> >Red Cross first aid training or equivalent was needed. Huh????
>> >It seems to me that:
>> >1) I was misinformed by the person I talked to at Philmont.
>> >2) The BSA considers its premier First Aid training program (First
>> >Aid MB) substandard and therefore inadequate to cover all BSA
>> >3) Philmont requirements need to be "adjusted" so that they can see
>> >the light of day.
As an instructor for ARC First Aid, and a First Aid MB Councilor, I can tell
you there are many things that are included in ARC FA. First off, when you
take ARC's CFA&S (community first aid and safety) you come out with some
practical knowledge on bandaging, splinting, burns, sprains, ILLNESSES,
poisoning, heat and cold illnesses, SPECIAL CASES (young and elderly), and
most importantly CPR for 1 man Adult. BSA adds to that moving patients and
The things in all caps, including CPR are NOT taught by the FA MB. Yes,
is covered, but you do not get a certification out of the BSA training.
The reason why the FA MB does not count is for liability reasons. If an
accident happened on the trail and the camp was sued, they would find the
highest training was the MB, and that goes back to national. For fear of
suits, National DOES NOT require any training at all, but strongly
it. If something goes wrong with an ARC certified person, ARC is liable
National or the camp, and it saves the BSA big dollars.
I strongly recommend that someone in the troop, if not more than 1, get
ARC's CFA&S certification, or go further and get your local state's CFR
(certified first responder, sometimes offered by ARC) or higher training.
Robert M. Lewis
EMT-B in NY
ARC CFA&S and CPR FPR instructor