scouts-l Mail Archive for May of 2000: Re: New Training Program
Wendell Brown (wbrown@ARKIE.NET
Mon May 15 2000 - 10:52:23 CDT
On Mon, 15 May 2000 11:11:26 -0400, Dale Karweik wrote:
>This weekend I had a chance to pick up and look through the new BS training
>program for outdoor leader skills for Scout leaders.
I haven't seen the syllabus (what is the part number, I really want a
copy???) but it sounds exactly like what our OWL/SMF staff was
discussing (wishing for) just this weekend. With 20 minutes to teach
each of the round robin classes in OWL and about the same amount of
time in SMF it appears that BSA is reacting to our most common
complaint on SMF and OWL participant surveys, "we need more time to
learn about knots, fires, cooking, wood tools / ax yard etc). And
judging from level of capability that I have seen this spring I have to
agree. I had more than one participant at SMF that did not know how to
tie a square knot (or even what one was). I'm sorry, but it takes more
than 20 minutes to SUCESSFULLY teach a novice (not to mention a patrol
of 8) to tie 7 different knots.
>The level is below what is taught in the enhanced Scoutmaster Fundamentals
>courses taught in our Council
How long is your SMF? Ours is one 4 hour pre-course meeting and then a
Friday night, Saturday, Sunday morning and it is BEYOND hectic, it's a
killer. My understanding is that at one time SMF was WAY longer than
this and the new course may cover some of the "removed" content.
>and it does nothing to reinforce the Patrol system in Scouting.
Could it be that this is so it can be recommended as a prerequisite for
SMF and as a suggested follow-up to OWL?
>It leaves me with several questions. Has the general skill level of adult
>leaders dropped below that taught in the Webelos outdoor Leader training?
Yes, it's sad but true. Especially in urban areas people have NO
outdoor skills and are happy in their ignorance.