scouts-l Mail Archive for May of 2000: Re: Multiple issues
Jeffry Smith (jsmith@ALUM.MIT.EDU
Sat May 13 2000 - 09:45:13 CDT
I'll try to keep traffic down by addressing multiple things here:
1. Regarding permission slips, paperwork for camporees:
I know it depends on councils as to checking on paperwork, and I'm
sorry to see the unit being turned back, but I can't believe in this
day and age, units DON'T get permission slips. 99% of the time,
they're not needed, but the instant you need to transport a youth to
medical care (including camp nurse), you should have some proof that
you can make medical decisions for the youth. Without a permission
slip, the medical attendents (EMTs, Nurses, Doctors) either have to
use their own judgement (implied consent, as the youth is under legal
age), or try to contact the parents. You have NO authority to make
medical decisions without some proof of delegation by the parents.
Period. End of story. Medical forms are EXTREMELY useful for giving
emergency care providers past pertinent history, and any unit that
goes to summer camp should keep a copy of the youth's medical form for
all campouts. Given that the council asked for proof of the
permission slips, I think they did the right thing it turning the
troop back. Unfortunately, I suspect the troop won't learn until they
have a serious accident on one of their campouts, & find out how
little authority they have.
2. Family at Scouting Events.
I agree that leaders routinely bringing small children to campouts &
events helps neither the troop nor the family. The leader has to
divide his/her attention. Another thing to remember is that, while
YOU are covered by scout's insurance, that younger sibling is not.
Anything happens to, by, or related to him/her, it's your nickle in
court. However, how about the alternative: Have the rest of the
family do a "family campout" that happens to be nearby. They watch
over the younger siblings during the scouting time. For Single
parents, how about getting some of the parents from the troop to
provide baby sitting service on campout weekends?
I also agree that this shouldn't be a routine thing. Scouts need time
away from family to grow. They also need time with family. Its a
matter of finding the balance.
3. Direct Service Council
To add to what Phil Abbey & Mike posted, I'd like to add that it's not
just American youth in the troops. I've been involved with units in
DSC & FE that had youth who's home Scouting organization didn't have
units in that country (actually, BSA & British scouting are the only
one's I've seen with remote units, although others could have them),
so they came to BSA. Earned exactly the same rank advancement, same
fun times, added some nice background. I believe this is possible in
the US, but not as common.
ASM, Troop 173
Hanscom AFB, MA
I used to be a Fox (Knotty Italian Foxes, @3-803-92)
Always...A Bicentennial Eagle