scouts-l Mail Archive for May of 2000: Re: Scoutmaster's Key Question
Daniel Hammond (danhammondsr@YAHOO.COM
Wed May 10 2000 - 12:55:30 CDT
Hank Voegtle--Eagle Scout-Class of '68 wrote in part:
"I thought that one of the Cub Scout training awards (I can't
which) was announced as having it tenure requirement reduced to 1
year in the September 1999 issue of Scouting."
The Webelos Den Leader Award was indeed changed to one year of
tenure. The training requirements remain unchanged.
>And it's also why we have the "interim award", the Scoutmaster (and
Advisor)Award of Merit, which is presented after a year and a half of
service (and the completion of other requirements).
"Why can't there be a similar award for Cubmasters? (Other than the
minimum tenure being two years)"
Yours in Scouting,
Hank Voegtle--Eagle Scout-Class of '68
Cubmaster, Pack 456, Dallas, Texas
District Committee Member, North Trail District, Circle 10
Mike Walton responded
"Hank asked two great questions:
>I thought that one of the Cub Scout training awards (I can't
>which) was announced as having it tenure requirement reduced to 1
>the September 1999 issue of Scouting.
I can't find anything about any of the (training) Awards being
reduced to one year. I know that the Cub Scout Program Division is
*considering* reducing the time period for Tiger Cub Den Leaders from
two years to one, but that's not a done deal.
--In fact the tenure for the Webelos Den Leader Award was reduced
from two years to one year in September of 1999. Since the vast
majority of Webelos Den Leaders progress with their dens into Boy
Scouts at about the 18 month mark, virtually no one was earning it,
unless they had a second son that eventually became a Webelos Scout.
"What I have found is that several of the Cub Scout (training) Awards
now allow Cub Scouters to spend one year as the "primary leader" (Den
Leader, Cubmaster, WEBELOS Den Leader) and one year as the "assistant
to the primary leader" (Assistant Den Leader, Assistant WEBELOS Den
Leader, Assistant Cubmaster) in order to meet the tenure requirements
for the award...some have been that way for a while (I know the
Cubmaster and Den Leader Awards were that way...)"
Because the Scoutmaster and Venturing Advisor Awards of Merit require
approval by the YOUTH LEADERSHIP of the unit; Cub Scouting does not
have "active youth leadership" at the Pack level.
That is the reason why those awards exist for Boy Scouting and later
for Venturing (it was not offered for Exploring until really late,
and by that time, the conversion started...) and there's NOT a
"Cubmaster Award of Merit."
But....there's hope, Hank. What WOULD qualify, in you and other Cub
Scouters' minds, for such an award on the same "level" as the
Scoutmaster and Advisor Awards of Merit??
(MAJ) Mike L. Walton"
-- Sounds to me that if we propose an award with well-defined
requirements, we could get one. My question would be just this: How
many Cub Scouters do you know that ever stay involved in Cub Scouting
beyond the two or three years their sons are Cub Scouts? While I
plan to do so, I believe I will be a very rare exception. Many
adults stay involved with Boy Scouts after their sons leave the
program, but how many do the same with Cub Scouts?
We could open a whole new thread about what the benefits would be for
the entire BSA program of developing ways to keep volunteers active
at the Cub Scouting level. Maybe a new award of some sort, with
extended tenure being the primary requirement would be a positive
factor in this regard.
IMHO, we have entirely too few people that stay involved in Cub
Scouting, despite the fact that it is the protion of the program
where we grow new boys (remember that final purpose of Cub
Scouting...Preparing them to be Boy Scouts?), as well as new leaders.
Whenever I conduct training, I try to stress to the participants
that the program works on a continuum, and that each boy is at a
particular point on that continuum that requires appropriate parental
and adult involvement and appropriate activities.
If we can figure out a way to keep adults involved at the Cub Scout
level, perhaps the entire program will benefit.
Daniel D. Hammond, Sr.
CM Pack 225 District Committee, Army Major, Olympia, WA
I Used to be an Owl... (Just finished my ticket!)
It is better to build boys than to repair men
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