scouts-l Mail Archive for April of 2000: Re: Scout Spirit and Advancement
Jim Sleezer (jhs8@OKSTATE.EDU
Mon Apr 24 2000 - 10:12:57 CDT
I was going to pass up comment on this one but I couldn't keep quiet any
First question! Who held the scout back two months. Did the SM refuse to
sign off on scout spirit but still have the scout meet the BOR? After
all, the BOR isn't just to pass a scout, it is to review his progress.
Although most scouts meeting the board do so for advancement, there is
also the option to review scouts who are not advancing. The board should
look for reasons why the scout is not completing advancement work. Can
the troop program be adjusted to help the scout advance? Remember, the
review is not just of whether the scout has completed the requirements or
not but is also a review of the troop, its leadership and its program.
In my opinion, if a scout meets the BOR with EVERYTHING signed off, unless
the board identifies a discrepancy that indicates that the requirements
could not have been properly completed, there is not an option to not
award the rank advancement.
Examples where the rank should not be awarded:
Tenderfoot requirement 10b is signed off less than 30 days after
requirement 10a. The requirement could not have been properly completed
since the scout could not have practiced for 30 days.
A candidate for Tenderfoot says he has not been camping with the troop or
his patrol. He could not have completed requirement 2 or 3. Board may
need to verify that a campout has not been overlooked.
A candidate for Star lists only two merit badges required for Eagle. Board
need to verify that there is not an error in the listing.
Other instances where it is obvious that a requirement was signed off in
error. In these cases, we have always gotten agreement from the scout
that there was an error. He is clearly aware why the advancement is not
being awarded. He knows how to fix it.
I am aware of SMs who sign off requirements and then expect, even ask, the
BOR to not pass the scout. In my opinion, the SM ought to be standing up
to the scout and saying that he (SM) won't sign off until scout properly
I suspect there is more to Kimberly's story than was included in the
message. I don't know what it is.