scouts-l Mail Archive for April of 2000: Re: Scout Spirit and Advancement
Neil Lupton (NeilLup@AOL.COM
Sun Apr 23 2000 - 16:55:35 CDT
In a message dated 4/23/00 10:45:04 AM, KNichols@USA.WCTRIALS.COM writes:
<< My son (age 14) was held back two (2) months on advancement because of
I am sorry that this has happened. I do have a couple of question:
1) What rank is he trning to earn? If it is Tenderfoot, that is one thing,
if Life or Eagle, that can be something different. Since he is 14, I presume
that it is one of the higher ranks. The standards there can be higher.
2) Was he told why he was told that his Scout Spirit need to be improved?
Was it because of a single incident or because of a number of things?
Please do not be offended by my next question but if he said "I dunno" or
"They didn't tell me" is there a chance that they DID tell him even in very
specific terms and either he doesn't want you to know the reason or else
doesn't want to talk with you about it? That might provide one reason why he
wants to drop out rather than address whatever the situation is that caused
the Scout Spirit deferral.
3) Bob Taylor asked some excellent questions in his post which should give
you some good information too.
If I were you, I would start off with the assumption that there was a good
reason for what the Troop did and they had my son's best interests at heart.
I would call the SM, possibly at a time that my son was not around. I
would ask the reason for what had happened, ask whether my son had been told
the reasons and whether he was given some specific things to do to
demonstrate Scout Spirit and meet the requirements.
If so, then I would ask for a meeting with the SM together with my son to
have my son discuss the matter and review his progress. Expect your son to
be a bit reluctant to have the meeting.
If not, then I would ask that there be such a meeting among you, your son and
either the SM or the Board of Review if necessary. Ask that he be told
specifically what the problems were and what he needs to do to show
appropriate Scout Spirit.
Normally it is VERY unusual for a boy to be deferred advancement. In almost
every circumstance I have known about, it has been for a good reason although
I do know some few cases where the Troop leadership were being jerks. So
before protesting or appealing or something like that, I would start off
assuming that there is a good reason for what happened, my son's best
interests had been taken into account and the objective of the Troop was to
make my son into a better Scout and better person.