scouts-l Mail Archive for April of 2000: Re: Denied Money-Earning App?
Neil Lupton (NeilLup@AOL.COM
Tue Apr 18 2000 - 18:44:55 CDT
In a message dated 4/18/00 7:22:36 PM, yfnse@MAIL.PELICANINC.COM writes:
<< Question 1: Has anybody been in this situation before?
Question 2: What did you do about it?
Question 3: Are there guidelines/rules about what constitutes a conflict
with FOS? >>
You have sent an extremely rational and well reasoned post. I have had a bit
of an opposite experience.
A few years ago, my council had targeted one of the corporations in our area
for a major gift -- $50,000 or more. We went in to present and were told
"We already gave you a very generous gift." We said "Huh!!" although
somewhat more elegantly and they said "Look here -- we gave you $1263 last
year." Further checking showed that they had a matching program for
employee gifts and those were the employee gifts to one Troop. The matching
money all went to the Troop. Needless to say , that particular unit would
sooner have sent money to the Communist Party or to Alpha Centauri than to
support FOS. So it gave the company an excuse to avoid us and duck our
Having said all this, I have never seen a publication on what approval of
project should mean other than the general rules of no competition with local
merchants, no games of chance, must give an item of fair value, no uniforms,
etc. Whether they can ding you for conflict with FOS, I am not certain but
it probably would come within the area of judgement.
I might ask whether your unit participates in and contributes to FOS and if
so, at what level? That can make a difference. If you are a generous
contributor, then you have a solid argument. If not, your position may be a
bit weaker but still---.
So it sounds as if your council may be a bit paranoid about FOS this year, or
else your DE might be. How are they doing financially? Are they pushing
hard to make Quality Council and Quality District. That could explain a lot.
So try to figure out where they are coming from and see if you can reason
with the decision makers. The decision should have been made by volunteers,
but that review is rare.