scouts-l Mail Archive for April of 2000: How many Committee Members?
The Gillams (howlers@INTELIPORT.COM
Tue Apr 18 2000 - 07:34:51 CDT
Does BSA set a limit on how many people can serve on the committee or is
it an unlimited number? Once the positions are all filled and there are
a couple of extra members, is that not enough?
I would like someone to explain to me the logic of why the SM and ASMs
cannot cast a vote when they are the ones actually working with the
boys? These are the people that truly run the program and know what is
needed, yet they are powerless.
In this Troop the most trained leaders, BSBLT, are the SM and 3 ASM's.
Only one committee member is trained. Everyone preaches training, yet
most Committee Members are NOT trained. I have found after over 6 years
in BSA the CMs don't know or care to know rules that apply to BSA. They
say I don't need training, I don't need to wear the uniform, I'm not
driving that far or spending my weekend doing that. Yet they can vote on
important issues and the SM and ASMs must comply with their decisions.
Recently we have acquired lots of new faces on our committee that are
still Cub parents. As most of you know there is a world of difference
between Cubs and Boy Scouts. The still Cub parents CMs are now out
numbering the Scout parents CMs with their voting power, leaving the
Scout leaders high and dry. The Cub parents CMs find it hard to believe
there are not advancements or awards given out monthly as in Cubs. I
know they can learn and it will take time but they are on a committee
that pretty much just flounders around. Thus leaving the SM and his AMSs
doing many jobs. Last year we sold pop-corn, the fund-raiser chair does
not ever attend RTs so he does not pick up the needed materials. Again
leaving it to an ASM. When the date for the pop-corn to be picked up
arrives does he offer to travel to another town and retrieve it or
seperate it? Heck no+ACE-
Another example our Advancements chair sets the dates for the BOR. He
decides at the last minute to have one. Can't find anyone to help him,
one boy is his son, need three signatures on the form, so the CC and the
COR assist a CM because the other numerous CMs are all unavailable. Too
many CMs are waiting till the last minute to perform their duties. Then
when it isn't right who catches the flak? THE SM and the ASM's, that
who. The CM's may be there in number but they are not there in person to
do these jobs except the monthly committee meeting.
The CC says this will help having so many CMs, yet the SM and ASM are
still doing the same jobs as before. Why is that the SM and his
Assistants cannot vote on what effects them when they are the informed
and effective leaders who attend training, RTs, Camp-o-rees, etc.?