scouts-l Mail Archive for April of 2000: Beef: Awarding Eagle Palms WITHOUT EARNING the Palms
MAJ) Mike Walton (settummanque, the blackeagle (blkeagle@USSCOUTS.ORG
Sat Apr 17 1993 - 16:07:58 CDT
Okay, I'm going to get onto my tiny soapbox, but I've seen this too many
times to let it go now:
I've attended several Eagle Scout Courts of Honor whereby the Scout receives
his Eagle Scout badge in a very impressive ceremony. Then, the Scoutmaster
or other person announces that "because he's earned 17 merit badges over
Eagle, he is also being awarded the Silver Palm for the Eagle Scout Badge.
This is a high honor indeed because not many Scouts go over the merit badges
needed to earn Eagle..."
I have to literally contain myself when I hear stuff like that, and even
moreso when I see Scouters, with very good intentions, award the Palms
*merely for having earned the additional merit badges* with NO REGARD to the
actual REQUIREMENTS needed to earn the Bronze, Gold and Silver Palms (or
combinations of them).
Scouters, *THERE ARE REQUIREMENTS FOR EACH PALM. THE PALMS ARE ADVANCEMENT
AND THEY HAVE TO BE BOARDED!*
Our materials don't do a good enough job, *in my opinion*, in explaining how
the Palms are earned and worn. Here's a good primer. Note the word "reported":
To earn the Bronze Palm, an Eagle Scout must be registered in the Troop,
Team, Crew or Ship for THREE MONTHS AFTER THE AWARD OF THE EAGLE SCOUT BADGE
and have earned FIVE merit badges beyond those reported for the Eagle Scout
Badge. He MUST ALSO PARTICIPATE IN A LEADERSHIP EXPERIENCE and participate
in a "mentor's" (Scoutmaster's) Conference AND A BOARD OF REVIEW at the unit
level (just like those for all other ranks less Eagle).
The Advancement Report along with the Palm Application (yes, there IS an
application for each Palm!) needs to be sent to the Council office and
approved, and ONE PALM AT A TIME is awarded to the Scout.
There ARE instances, for instance, when the Scout earns Eagle back in
November of last year, and because of the "slowness" with the Council and
National, the Eagle Scout Award is not returned approved until Feburary.
This gives the Scout the time between November and Feburary to earn that
Bronze Palm, and in many cases those Scouts DO earn that Palm and is
presented both Eagle and the Bronze Palm at his Eagle Scout Court of Honor.
The three months start with the successful completion of the Eagle Scout
Board of Review, NOT the date of the Court of Honor.
Three months later, the SAME requirements he met for the Bronze Palm should
be met for the Gold Palm: three months' tenure, earning five merit badges
beyond those reported for the Bronze Palm, the leadership experience and
mentor's conference...and the Board of Review.
Three months later, the SAME requirements he met for the Gold Palm should be
met for the Silver Palm; three months' tenure, earning five merit badges
beyond those reported for the Gold Palm,....etc. etc....
So every three months, an active Eagle Scout, with a "rack of merit badges"
earned AT ANY TIME SINCE BECOMING A BOY SCOUT AND NOT PREVIOUSLY REPORTED
FOR THE EAGLE SCOUT BADGE NOR ANY PALM should be participating in an
mentor's conference and a Board of Review BEFORE the awarding of the next
Palm; and the paperwork for the Palm should be sent in immediately after the
Board so that the Council can have and maintain a tracking of the Scouts'
I've had the "Council search from Hades" this past week, as I unraveled a
Scouter's inquiry to me about his Palms. He says that when he was awarded
his Eagle, because he also had 27 merit badges above Eagle, he was also
awarded *all three Palms*. His Council only had records of him earning the
Bronze Palm, but thank Goodness, that they kept copies of the Advancement
Reports, because they were able to find a copy of the Advancement Report
which stated that someone "put him in" for ALL THREE PALMS on the report.
That's why his Council only has him "recorded" as only earning the Bronze
Palm (the first Palm) even though on the report ALL THREE PALMS are listed.
He is trying to get the Council to award him the other two palms but as I
wrote back to him "I don't think you'll get all three" since he turned 18
shortly after the awarding of the three Palms.
What started this was that the Scouter wanted to get an Eagle Scout with
Silver Palm card since "he did get the Silver Palm".
What happens after you've earned the third Palm? The process starts over
again with the Bronze Palm...same requirements, same time period, same process.
Only thing, the "highest combination" of Palms are worn when earned. That
"highest combination" is ALWAYS going to consist of a Silver Palm (or more
than one) and EITHER a Gold OR Bronze Palm to "match the number of merit
On my Unofficial Uniform and Insignia site, on the page explaining the Eagle
Scout Palms, is a description of the combination of Silver and the other two
Palms. An Eagle Scout NEVER wears ALL THREE PALMS together.
And no, the BSA has NEVER made cards for those Scouts whom have earned
"Silver and..." Palms. The cards are ONLY available for "Bronze", "Gold"
and "Silver" Palms.
The Eagle Palms need not be awarded during an Eagle Scout Court of Honor,
and can be presented to the Eagle Scout during a regular Court of Honor (or
Venturing/Sea Scouting equal).
A Scout may continue to earn Palms to his Eagle Scout Badge until he turns
18, tires of the process, or have exhausted the current merit badge listing,
whichever comes first.
And some Scouts *have done just that*, waiting the three months between each
Palm before it's awarded to them.
Sorry for the rant....but I hope that my ravings has helped some Scouter out
there wondering "now HOW do I go about this?"
(MAJ) Mike L. Walton (settummanque, the blackeagle)
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