scouts-l Mail Archive for April of 2000: Re: Eagle Project?
Paul S. Wolf (Paul.s.Wolf@ALUM.WPI.EDU
Tue Apr 11 2000 - 11:30:53 CDT
The Gillams wrote:
> If a Scout is ready to proceed with his Eagle project, does the Troop
> committee need to have at least be familiar with what the Scout has
> chosen or is one Troop Committee member's approval enough?
It depends on what the COMMITTEE has decided IN ADVANCE. Some units
have delegated that responsibility to the Unit Committee Chairman, the
Advancement chairman or the "Eagle Coordinator/Eagle Advisor". Others
require a presentation to the unit committee by th Scout. The official
rule is shown below your letter and my comments. It is general enough to
be interpreted either way.
> The committee has never seen the Scout's intended project. Scout also
> set date without contacting the Troop or Committee first with only
> two and a half week's notice. He just asked the Troop last night to
> help and it is to be April 29. Our committee chair says it needs to
> go on front of the committee but the committee member father says, it
> doesn't, since another committee member, Eagle advisor, approved it
How has your unit handled Eagle projects in the past? Which person has
precedents to cite? And, of course, there's always the BIG question,
When is the Scout's 18th birthday? I hope it isn't April 30th.
Also, "the committee member father" should not be speaking for his son.
His son is supposed to be demonstrating leadership.
One other point: Has the project received approval from the DISTRICT or
COUNCIL Advancement Committee? That can also either involve a
presentation before the entire committee or just one member, depending
on how THAT committee has decided to operate.
If not, then he MAY NOT proceed.
> The weekend he has chosen just happens to be the Relay for Life
> Cancer Walk which is a fairly big weekend event here so it may
> conflict with being able to get warm bodies for both things.
Assuming he does proceed, then that will just be one of the factors that
he'll have to overcome as part of his leadership. The project is also
supposed to be a learning experience. He may learn that proper planning
and comparing his schedule with that of others is an important part of
leadership. One of the key items in the workbook is space to insert
information on any changes he had to make to the plans. The
If your original project plan changes at any time, be sure and
document what the change was and the reason for the change.
And the form has the following input area:
List any changes made to the original project plan and explain
why those changes were made.
As my son (who is an Eagle and a member of the District Advancement
Committee) has said on a number of occasions,
"Failure to plan ahead on your part does not
constitute an Emergency on my part."
> Ginny Gillam
> Troop 164
> Tidewater Council
>From BSA's web site:
The project idea must be approved by the organization benefiting from
the effort, your unit leader (Scoutmaster, Varsity Scout Coach,
Venturing crew Advisor), unit committee, and by the council or district
advancement committee before you start.
2. Using the Eagle Scout Leadership Service Project Workbook, the
candidate must select his Eagle service project and have the project
concept approved by his unit leader, his unit committee, and the
benefactor of the project, and reviewed and approved by the council or
district advancement committee. The workbook must be used in meeting
Paul S. Wolf, PE mailto:Paul.S.Wolf@alum.wpi.edu
Advancement/Safety Webmaster, USSSP http://www.usscouts.org
Winding Rivers Dist. Advancement Comm., Greater Cleveland Council, BSA
Past President, Great Lakes Region, Federation of Jewish Men's Clubs
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