scouts-l Mail Archive for April of 2000: Re: Changing Tides (Was Re: BSA v. Dale)
MAJ) Mike Walton (settummanque, the blackeagle (blkeagle@USSCOUTS.ORG
Sun Apr 11 1993 - 20:23:31 CDT
My fellow Beaver, the Professor Beaver (Mike Bowman) wrote something I want
to emphasize. Mike wrote in part:
>John also opined that nothing we do at the unit level can have sway on the
>thinking in Irving. I would take some issue on that point. Comments from
>the frontline to the folks in Irving are taken seriously and do sometimes
>result in change. I can think of several instances where things discussed
>here on this list ended up in letters to Irving where changes followed.
Want some examples:
*Cargo pants: Yes, those pockets *are small*, but it was the *online
Scouting community* which took the lead and convinced other Scouters and the
Supply Division in turn to bring them back.
And yes, they HAVE received a literal TON of mail concerning creating a
pants that SCOUTS can confortably wear....
*Custom uniforms: I've harped here to the point of annoyance over the years
on the fact that there's NO SCOUTER OUT THERE that the BSA cannot outfit.
Several of you have taken the BSA and me up on what I've stated (and what
the BSA has said over the many years) and found this to be true. Many of
you wrote to National Supply asking them to please tell the world about this
special feature that they offer. The BSA has listened, and if you go to the
Supply Division part of their official website
(http://www.bsa.scouting.org), you'll find a SPECIAL ORDER FORM and
instructions on how to get a uniform fit to YOUR PARTICULAR DIMENSIONS.
*Roundtable Staff patches: The BSA wanted to change the design of the Cub
Scout and Boy Scout Roundtable patches, and for a brief period they did.
Only when Scouters here online stated "that's not right...they are
commissioners and the commissioner's wreath of service should remain on
those patches", did the Program Group and the Supply Division
listened....and guess what?? The wreaths came BACK....and Roundtable Staff
members are considered part of the Commissioners' staff again!!
*unit patches: Lots of Scouters here on *this list* complained about the
lack of the BSA to produce special patches for Scouting for Food, Outdoor
Skills, and other events which the Council may or may not coordinate or do,
but the unit does it every year since offered. "It's not fair", someone
complained here back in the middle 90s, "that the Council gets to tell us
what patches they are going to grace us with....we should be able to
purchase a generic patch that we can give to Scouts for their participation"
And you know what?? The BSA DOES provide generic patches for several
"national emphasis activities" which do NOT need Council approval to
present....including one for Pinewood Derby.
*Revisions to Philmont Reservations: Man, did *that one* hit a hot button!!
Not only did Scouters discuss the merits and demerits of that policy here,
but on several other forums....which caused the Outdoor Division and the Boy
Scout Division to change the policy not just once, but twice!
*and there's others that get discussed here and *somehow* make their way to
BSA program or support divisions for consideration and in many cases,
inclusion in following year's revisions to the Scouting programs......
So, Mike is absolutely correct, folks: your comments, here on Scouts-L, as
well as on other discussion lists, coupled with your *written comments to
the appropriate Division at the National Office* (and copies to your
Council's Scout Executive), DO MAKE A DIFFERENCE. Thanks for
participating...thanks for expressing your opinions and thoughts, and thank
you for your many suggestions and ways that "if someone here from National
is reading this all, this is how I would approach it..."
(MAJ) Mike L. Walton (settummanque, the blackeagle)
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