scouts-l Mail Archive for March of 2000: AoL/bridging policy questions
Sat Mar 25 2000 - 10:31:21 CST
some background of what our Troop has been told:
"... once that form [the application to join Boy Scouts] gets
to the Scout office, the boy can no longer participate in
Cub activities as a Cub. That means he cannot participate
in the Pinewood Derby or in the Arrow of Light ceremony.
The workaround (discussed at the last several Commissioners'
meetings) is to hold the form until after the ceremony."
"From the Cub end, once the boy has officially joined Boy
Scouts (which means the date at which his application and
money arrive at the Scout office and are entered in their
records - which should be the date stamped on the applic-
ation and/or the date of the money receipt printout), he
can no longer do Cub things. That is, he cannot earn any
more Cub activity badges, and most important, he cannot
get any more rank advancement.
True statement. he cannot EARN anymore advancement. He can, however, be
AWARDED advancement he has already earned.
If he has not crossed the
Bridge and officially received his Arrow of Light, then he
is no longer eligible to do so. So his Boy Scout application
should not be filed with the office until either he has
gone through the Arrow of Light Bridging Ceremony or he and
his parents understand and agree that he will no longer be
eligible to do so."
Not true. Let's not confuse the ceremony with the achievement. There is no
requirement to even HAVE a ceremony to receive the rank. "Officially" being
able to receive the award rests solely on the advancement report being
submitted in writing to Council. Look it up-- does AoF say anything about a
ceremony? No, it doesn't, and these folks might be amazed to learn that many
Packs don't do big ceremonies.
(Wtive achievement and exhorts them to continue this sort of thing into
Scouting is good, but a big production that make them think they're the
biggest thing to hit Scouting since B-P is an invitiation to an inevitable
big letdown once they hit Scouts and have to actually achieve success at
objective measures, not just "do their best." (The age difference is the
distinction-- it's appropriate for little kids to be encouraged to try stuff
& be recognized for even the attempts, but big boys have to actually do it to
be recognized). off soap box )
A Boys Scout cannot do any more work towards Eagle rank after his 18th
birthday (there can be exceptions granted based on health, etc.) but he may
have his award PRESENTED to him any time. We have several late Eagles who
have their Courts of Honor during Christmas break when they're home from
college, over 18. A very few just pick it up at the office and that's that.
They're still Eagles.
This sounds more like a muddy and potentially lethal combination of adult
ambition for glory (which ought not to be transmitted to boys) and a big
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