scouts-l Mail Archive for March of 2000: Re: Zero Tolerance
Jeffry Smith (jsmith@ALUM.MIT.EDU
Tue Mar 21 2000 - 21:54:31 CST
Rfisher <ghotier@TEXAS.NET> said:
>If zero tolerance is such a bad thing, why are the requirements written "no
>more, no less." Doesn't it seem more appropriate in light of the lack of
>judgment involved to let Johnny do only the first two requirements, because he
>tried "so hard" but Jimmy has to do all of them plus some extra ones that the
>counselor thought up, because Jimmy was very proficient and more capable.
Because one is punishment, the other is recognition of accomplishment.
>Where do you draw the line and say that this infraction of the rule against
>carrying knives to school is okay, this infraction gets a one day suspension and
>this infraction gets expelled? And what about the infraction that is worse than
>#1 but not quite as bad as #2?
Where do you draw the line and say this is murder one, this is
manslaughter, this is justifiable homocide, this is self-defense?
Same issue, what is the motive, what are the circumstances around the
activity? The problem with the zero-tolerance rules is that they make
no difference for the "I accidently dropped it in my pocket" student
who is Honors, no troubles ever, Eagle Scout, etc, and the routine
trouble-maker who attempts to carve up his teacher.
>The rules are the rules. You can do one of three things: you can live with
>them, you can try to change them or you can break them and be prepared to suffer
>the consequences. There is one other option, you can change schools.
Yep, those are the options. Some of us will try to get them changed,
through school board elections, petitions, and other peaceful, legal
means, as we teach our youth to do when they feel something is wrong.
Although I wouldn't suggest intentionally violating most of the
zero-tolerance rules, that is the action of Ghandi, MLK, etc, in their
battles for (independence, civil rights) called passive disobedience.
And yes, they knowingly paid the penalties for what they believed what
Like you, just my opinion.
ASM, Troop 173
Hanscom AFB, MA
I used to be a Fox (Knotty Italian Foxes, W3-803-92)
Always, a Bicentenniel Eagle