scouts-l Mail Archive for March of 2000: Re: SM or PLC?
Patrick Hummert (troop_765@YAHOO.COM
Wed Mar 15 2000 - 23:28:35 CST
--- "Daniel H. Kurtenbach"
How do you decide or draw the line between
> disciplinary matters that the PLC can handle and
> those that the troop
> adults must handle (if, indeed, there is such a
> line)? Do you have an
> express agreement or understanding with the PLC
> about where that line is?
> Do you feel free to cross that line if you think
> the PLC is being
Real Good Question!
This one will no doubt draw some fire!
Here are my thoughts:
There are, in my opinion, three types on
"inappropriate" behavior that needs to be addressed:
A) Behavior that reflects a Scout not otherwise
fulfilling his duties within the Troop.
Theses issues are typically called attention to by the
Members of the Troop and are delbt with either at the
Patrol or PLC levels of operation. There will be a
few times that it will be an adult that will draw
attention to these issues, but it is promptly turned
over to the Scouts to deal with it !
B) Behavior that disrupts the Troop function but is
neither Illegal or a Threat to the health or safety of
a person, property or living thing.
Theses issues are typically addressed in the following
1) The Scout is asked by ranking Scouts or by an
adult in charge to D/C the behavior.
2) The PLC may or may not be asked to address the
issue but is always advised of the incident at hand.
If the Scout repeats the incident, PLC is asked to
address the issue!
At the request of PLC or as the Scoutmaster feels
the need, a "Scoutmaster's Conference" is held and the
issue is addressed. The Scout is then referred to PLC
to "Set The Limits" for the Scout. If things reach
this level, I, as Scoutmaster may be asked to attended
a PLC meeting to "GUIDE" the Scouts in reviewing their
responsibility to address each issue in a way that
promotes "improvement" within the Troop. Is the issue
is an "Act by the SM, an alt. adult is picked by PLC
to advise, typically being the next ranking Assist.
C) An act that is a major offense against BSA or
Troop policy (Yes, we do have a few policies that go
beyond BSA limits!) or is realized to be an infraction
"Against the Law".
As soon as the "act" is stopped, the SM and PLC
meet to review the incident, making a written record
of the "facts" and then contact the Scout's parent or
responsible adult to remove him from the outing as
timely as possible, when needed. When the act brakes
the law, the police are notified at this time as well,
seeking that they review the issues with the Scout and
his parents before he leaves the site.
The Scout will still face PLC before ever attending a
another Troop function.
In the eight years that I have been involved in this
Troop (2 1/2 years as SM), I have only witnessed one
incident of two Scouts being asked by PLC to leave the
Troop. I have however, also witnessed Scouts being
stripped of position or responsibility, although this
is not too common. Most Scouts have been referred to
a SM Conference or sent for training or placed under a
"guiding brother" to think through the issues at hand.
Yes, we have this all in writing for each boy and his
parents before he signs up with the Troop.
Keep Scouting Fun!
Pat Hummert, SM
Troop 765, GSLAC
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