scouts-l Mail Archive for March of 2000: Re: Baden Powell Patrol
MAJ) Mike Walton (settummanque, the blackeagle (blkeagle@USSCOUTS.ORG
Mon Mar 15 1993 - 20:10:42 CST
Tee asked (and no, it is NOT a "dumb question"):
> Once a patrol achieves National Honor Patrol, how
>long do the members get to wear the award?
They wear it as long as they are members of that Patrol. I'm in the process
of posting this information to the Unofficial Uniform and Insignia site.
Let's say you have a Patrol called the Rockin' Raven Patrol. The Patrol
consists of four members: Bill, Will, Red and Ed. All four member met the
requirements for the National Honor Patrol Award when it was called the
Baden-Powell Patrol Award last fall. Three months have passed and now the
Rockin' Ravens have picked up Steve and and Mark. The Patrol has to meet
the requirements for the new National Honor Patrol Award in order to earn a
second star. They do.
So Steve and Mark wears *one star* and the rest of the Patrol receives a
SECOND star to go around the Patrol emblem. Three months later, Bill
becomes the Senior Patrol Leader. He has to remove his Patrol emblem
because he's no longer a member of a Patrol. The Rockin' Ravens once again
meets the requirements for the National Honor Patrol Award and everyone
receives another star, except for Bill.
Even though Steve and Mark were not members of the Rockin' Ravens for the
full three month period, they are still entitled to wear the Star because
they helped the Patrol meet the requirements. And if Bill was still in the
Patrol, he too would be able to wear the Star.
Nine stars can go around the Patrol emblem...which means (according to my
non-math brain!!) that a Patrol can technically win this thing again and
again for two years and one quarter of a third year. The BSA doesn't give a
limit on how many times a Patrol has won this thing, and because nobody
bothered to tell the Boy Scout Program Division if they've had a Patrol to
win this thing more than four times, that's the current "stat".
>BTW, the latest version of the Boy Scout Handbook says that, to earn
>National Honor Patrol, at least 75% of the patrol's membership have to
>wear the full uniform correctly. It doesn't say where the uniform has
>to be worn correctly, or how often, or even if the 75% have to wear it
>all at the same event. (Going to the ridiculous extreme, I suppose the
>patrol members could pitch in and buy one full uniform and each one wear
>it a different day.) Is there some other reference that elaborates on
>the National Honor Patrol Award or is what appears in the handbook the
>sum total of the requirements?
Nope. The requirements were listed that "vaguely worded way" to allow
individual Troops and Teams the chance to "cinch up" those requirements.
It's a Troop/Team program, Tee...not a national program. Therefore, each
unit can concentrate on those areas that they are weak in and tighten up
those requirements to fit their needs. To *me* however, the uniform
standard is firm: 75 percent of the Patrol's membership must own and wear a
full uniform. Now, what's a "full uniform"?? Is that the same as a
"complete uniform"?? That's up to the Troop or Team to decide.
I've had a page set up with the older Baden-Powell Patrol Award requirments,
and I've received a lot of complaints that folks could not see the award
star. So, I'm blowing up the scans and will repost it with the additional
information in the coming days.
(MAJ) Mike L. Walton (settummanque, the blackeagle)
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