scouts-l Mail Archive for March of 2000: Re: First Aid Required
MAJ) Mike Walton (settummanque, the blackeagle (blkeagle@USSCOUTS.ORG
Fri Mar 12 1993 - 15:05:25 CST
You wrote and asked us all:
>At our Scout roundtable held last night, one of the SM's said he had heard
that >there would be a new requirement soon before an adult could take
scouts camping. >...
>It was said that an adult leader would have to have a certificate that they
had >passed the Red Cross first aid and CPR classes. I know that somebody
must have >CPR in your troop for quality unit, but now we have to have FA
and CPR, too.
*So far*, Terry, it is true; the BSA's National Health and Safety Committee
has recommended this change in the requirements for adults which supervise
Scouts overnight camping.
If it (and the other requirements, which include that ALL adults must have
completed Youth Protection training and one of the adults must attend a
"outdoors skills" course (which is *still in development*) ) is passed by
the BSA's National Executive Board, we could see the implementation of those
requirements by the start of the 2001 program year.
Note that we're behind the Girl Scouts of the USA, which already require
this before they can take girls outdoors camping overnight.
The biggest problem (stumbling block) in getting this passed is, as you've
>To require that you pay the Red Cross $35 dollars for the CPR and FA class
>every two to three years to stay certified may be too much for smaller
troops. >Will I have to pay or will my troop pick up the fee? I have
been certified and I >will keep it current as before, but now the rule is I
have to do this.
I couldn't find out any information on who's going to pay...the Council,
individual units, or individual Scouters. You may not remember this, but a
few short years ago, the BSA floated an idea to have individual Scouters to
pay for a "clearance" from the local or state police department which would
be attached to the BSA registration form in order to be approved. Scouters
and local Councils complained that this would be a heavy burden on Councils
and units already strapped for cash and that it would be detriment toward
getting/retaining individuals in Scouting. After all, who wants to tell the
world about those three moving violations you had in 1993 and the fine for
parking in a handcapped slot two years ago??
The BSA removed that requirement and instead left it to local Councils and
chartered partner organizations to best "certify" their volunteers and it
has worked out well so far.
It is also possible that the BSA, the American Red Cross (ARC) and the
Americana Heart Association (AHA) will work out some sort of "reduced cost"
for volunteers and professionals taking their standard first aid and CPR
courses. But seeing how a great deal of funding for local AHA and ARC
chapters are based upon individuals and businesses paying for those courses,
I don't see a good resolution of this.
So, I don't know if this WILL happen for sure. We'll know for sure by the
end of May....
I've been told also that the adult application will be changed to include
statements in bold type concerning the BSA's membership and leadership
policies. (It's about time, I say...) In this way, potential volunteers are
told UP FRONT of the BSA's leadership and membership policies and cannot use
the excuse that "nobody informed me" otherwise. I've been arguing over at
rec.scouting.issues for the past couple of years that if the BSA would have
done this when they first revised the adult volunteer application years
back, many of the problems that they have encountered would have been
resolved simply by holding the application up and asking the volunteer "Is
this your signature? Did you sign this under any form of duress? Then if
you've signed it, we're sure that you've read the information above it which
explains our membership and leadership policies in bold type!"
(Of course, this will also mean that the BSA will have to EXPLAIN in bold
type their actual membership and leadership policies, something they have
been reluctant to do, leaving it to local Councils to muddle through it all
and decide for themselves.)
(MAJ) Mike L. Walton (settummanque, the blackeagle)
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