scouts-l Mail Archive for March of 2000: Re: Committee/Scoutmaster Questions
Neil Lupton (NeilLup@AOL.COM
Wed Mar 08 2000 - 16:13:52 CST
In a message dated 3/8/00 7:36:37 PM, wwwalker@IX.NETCOM.COM writes:
<< I need to know what the "official" BSA policy is regarding the following
issues.... I am not real interested in how individual Troops do this.... we
have may flavors in our District... What I need is specific references....
the Troop Committee Guidebook does not do an adequate job... I can find
conflicting information in my training notes....
I understand that the Scoutmaster is appointed by the Troop Committee.... It
is my understanding that the Committee helps recruit the ASM's but they are
appointed by the Scoutmaster.... Is this correct?
CHECK ADULT APPLICATION FOR PROCEDURES. I BELIEVE THAT APPLICATIONS FOR SA
ARE APPROVED BY TROOP COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN AND IH OR CR.
I understand that the Scoutmaster assigns boys to patrols and determines if
boys need to be moved from one patrol to another. The key issue here is who
decides weather two patrols are merged... the Scoutmaster (with input from
the PLC) or the Troop Committee?
THIS IS OPERATIONAL ISSUE WITHIN TROOP. SM RESPONSIBILITY. CHECK HBSM.
HOWEVER, A GOOD SM WOULD CONSULT WITH COMMITTEE.
I understand that the Scoutmaster assigns ASM's to work with the patrols.
The key issue here is can the Troop Committee reassign an ASM or relieve an
ASM of his position?
YOU WON'T FIND THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION OF REASSIGNMENT IN THE BOOK. AS
FAR AS RELIEVING, NORMALLY THE PARTY WHO HIRES CAN FIRE. IN THE LIMITING
CASE, THAT IS CC AND IH/CR.
Can the Troop Committee establish additional requirements for Scouts to
participate in the outdoor program and to attend Summer Camp?... The issue
here is can the Committee require all Scouts (and Scouters) to complete a
Class 3 medical when "some" could get by with a "class 2".
I WOULD SAY YES. THIS IS ADDING REASONABLE SAFETY REQUIREMENTS BY UNIT
Also, can the
Troop Committee require that all registered adults that participate in the
outdoor program or attend summer camp have completed YPT?
SAME ANSWER; I WOULD SAY YES. ADDING REASONABLE SAFETY REQUIREMENTS BY UNIT
Can the committee require that all Scouts (and Scouters) maintain current
adult CPR/FA certification to participate in the outdoor program or attend
THIS IS PROBABLY GOING A BIT OVER THE EDGE. I WOULD SAY THAT IT WOULD BE
APPROPRIATE TO REQUIRE THAT SOMEONE BE SO CERTIFIED ON EVERY OUTING.
The approved merit badge procedure... It is my understanding that a Scout
meets with the Scoutmaster. The Scoutmaster assigns a Merit Badge Councilor
and signs the "blue card". It is then the Scouts responsibility to complete
the listed merit badge requirements to the assigned Councilor's
satisfaction. The Councilor then signs the card and the completion is
recorded... The key issue here is that the Scoutmaster must sign the card
before a Scout can begin a merit badge... AND the Scoutmaster can choose not
to sign a card if he feels that the Scout is not ready to take the requested
badge AND the Scoutmaster can assign a specific councilor..... Is this
YES, CHECK ADVANCEMENT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
While we have operated smoothly in the past, we are having some problems
with a few parents who, for what they think is in the best interest of the
SCOUT... (ie their own Scout and not necessarily all of the SCOUTS) want to
"force" the Troop to change long-standing procedures that have worked very
well... Some of the pushing is now shoving... Note that the key word is
"FORCE" not "Work it out".... Suggestions and comments??? Off group
responses would be appreciated....
YOUR QUESTIONS SCARE ME. IT SUGGESTS A BATTLE ROYAL IS GOING ON IN YOUR
UNIT. I WOULD SUGGEST RUNNING, NOT WALKING TO YOUR PHONE AND GETTING YOUR
FRIENDLY COMMISSIONER INVOLVED. IF YOU DON'T HAVE A GOOD UNIT COMMISSIONER,
INVOLVE YOUR ASST. DISTRICT OR DISTRICT COMMISSIONER.
MANY OF THESE ITEMS ARE NOT SPECIFIED IN DETAIL IN OFFICIAL BSA POLICIES
BECAUSE THOSE POLICIES ASSUME A COLLABORATIVE, FRIENDLY WORKING RELATIONSHIP
BETWEEN THE SM AND COMMITTEE. SCOUTING PROCEDURES OFTEN DO NOT WORK AS WELL
WHEN THE PARTIES ARE HOSTILE. IF YOU HAVE TWO ARMED CAMPS, EACH QUOTING THE
BOOK, IT IS VERY LIKELY THAT YOU WILL UNCOVER SOME OF THE INCONSISTENCIES IN
BSA LITERATURE OR ELSE WILL FIND AREAS THAT, QUITE INTENTIONALLY, ARE NOT