scouts-l Mail Archive for February of 2000: Re: What Sayeth the List?
Ken Walker (ken.walker@MSCSOFTWARE.COM
Thu Feb 17 2000 - 20:01:43 CST
Joseph T Gulick wrote:
>Band is an extracurricular activity in the state of TX. Yes, they get a
>grade, but it is also an extracurricular activity that they don't HAVE to
Joseph, depends where you live. In my town, ALL 6th GRADERS must take a
music course (Band, Orchestra or Choir). And yes, a part of the grade
includes performances. Of course, many 7th & 8th graders (my son included)
find that they enjoy music--surprise--and when they sign up for the
class they MUST participate in the performances--it impacts their grade.
So, do I tell my son to quit Scouts since he found he is a first-chair
trombone player? Don't think so.
>Good for this Scout, but I had a Scout that was not active for the first
>month and a half of his term as PL. The APL was doing all of the work,
>so why shouldn't he have the title if the other Scout didn't even show
>the courtesy to the APL to call and let him know that he wasn't even
>going to be at the meeting. So, the PL was removed, and the APL was
>moved up to PL. This was done on this Mon. and was the first time that
>we have used the rule in over 4 yrs that I have been SM of this Troop.
>It is not my rule, but one agreed upon by the Troop Committee.
What's the difference if the APL does the job for 1-1/2 months at the
beginning, middle, or end of the term? That's why you have an APL. This
is called delegation in sophisticated management circles. (It may not be
effective delegation, but that is why we have backup leadership.)
Dumb question: Anyone ask the patrol members what they thought?
[I know the answer.] A boy-led troop would let them make the decision.
The SPL/SM would simply help help them implement their decision.
>Again, we do not limit their options, but if they make a COMMITTMENT to
>be a Troop/Patrol leader, they should be compelled to follow through with
There is A LOT more to leadership than "being there". There are many ways
to lead: coaching his assistants, a priori event/meeting planning & prep.
A leader who doesn't come to meetings can be more effective than the
leader who is at every meeting and NEVER makes the necessary plans for
the meeting/event to run smoothly.
Just my opinion, I could be wrong.....
I used to be a Bear....
Ken Walker, ASM T-259, CM P-200
District Training Committee
Wood Badge SR-269 http://wb53.tripod.com/
Circle 10 Council/Great Plains District - Plano, TX
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